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<blockquote data-quote="Iosue" data-source="post: 5754596" data-attributes="member: 6680772">The statement &quot;It is not about what the players' want... ever&quot; is meaningless if then coupled with &quot;My players enjoy my game.&quot;It goes like this:Statement: &quot;It is not about what the players' want... ever&quot;Objection: &quot;The de facto desire of all players is to have fun.&nbsp; That basic desire must be entertained.&quot;Response: &quot;My players have fun.&quot;Conclusion: &quot;You are bending to their desires by giving them fun.&nbsp; Ergo, the statement is untenable as it stands.&quot;Everything else is drawing the line at where players have fun.&nbsp; In Pilgrim's group, they obviously have fun by leaving all decisions to him, and their investment in their own ideas and specific requests is not so great that they cease to have fun if he turns them down.&nbsp; In Systole's group the players are not having fun.&nbsp; The DM can either adjust his style so that they have fun as much fun as he is, or let the game die when they walk away.&nbsp; (And since Systole can DM himself, this is a viable option.)The question then becomes is Supreme Executive Power worth more to Systole's DM than the game itself, or, is the game valued enough for a Group Magna Carta?&nbsp; Only Systole's DM can answer that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Iosue, post: 5754596, member: 6680772"] The statement "It is not about what the players' want... ever" is meaningless if then coupled with "My players enjoy my game." It goes like this: Statement: "It is not about what the players' want... ever" Objection: "The de facto desire of all players is to have fun. That basic desire must be entertained." Response: "My players have fun." Conclusion: "You are bending to their desires by giving them fun. Ergo, the statement is untenable as it stands." Everything else is drawing the line at where players have fun. In Pilgrim's group, they obviously have fun by leaving all decisions to him, and their investment in their own ideas and [i]specific requests[/i] is not so great that they cease to have fun if he turns them down. In Systole's group the players are not having fun. The DM can either adjust his style so that they have fun as much fun as he is, or let the game die when they walk away. (And since Systole can DM himself, this is a viable option.) The question then becomes is Supreme Executive Power worth more to Systole's DM than the game itself, or, is the game valued enough for a Group Magna Carta? Only Systole's DM can answer that. [/QUOTE]

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