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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 3503892" data-attributes="member: 545">That is one possible interpretation.But attempting the Spot check is not sufficient.  I cannot "look" at a Hiding Rogue if I fail to make the appropriate Spot DC.  I must actually succeed at some kind of Spot check or I do not "see" the little mark on the object in question in any way that matters under the RAW.We do not have a good definition of what it is to "look" at a Rune under the RAW.  Is it possible to "look" at a little mark on a bouncing ball as a Free Action?  What is the DC?  Does it have Concealment due to orientation?And since the "Paladin Stereotype" card is already in play, thanks to Rich, I would say it is entirely possible, nay, likely, for an entire room full of Paladins to fail their Spot check if the DC is 22 or over, FWIW.</blockquote>