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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4691312" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>It's likely an issue of inevitability. There are three likely instances of the 4 words, each being basically pivotal. The killing of Kubota did force V to make the decision to sever ties with the rest of the party, "I cannot fail again" fits to, and this last one occurs just before V seals the deal. In a way, it has to do with how one sees inevitability. As a prophecy, it was always bound to occur, thus it's possible the 4 words start the sequence of events. However, ultimately, it's only inevitable that the Kubota killing leads to the ultimate arcane power if V accepts that it was inevitable, and doesn't take the outs available, especially the one given by the demons in the end.</p><p> </p><p>However, if Disintegrate Gust of Wind are what fufills the prophecy, it is only because V accepts that it was the point of no return. However, V makes that decision, and does so by saying four words, for the wrong reasons as well. It could very well be that V was in effect tricked into saying the four words (and more importantly, doing what the four words implied) because V believed that the four words were already spoken, and the point of no return had been crossed, in effect creating a self-fufilling prophecy. V knows to look for 4 words just like the rest of the audience does, and only suffers from being unable to recognize that what V is doing is for the wrong reason at the time it's done. If V realized, in retrospect, than the 4 words to Kubota were said for the wrong reason, that reasoning could be the "wrong reason" V agreed to deal [believing V had already damned V's self] causing the most recent 4 words to be spoken.</p><p> </p><p>What it comes down to is that after killing Kubota, V continued to make decisions that lead up to the choice made in this comic, and was given many opportunities to make different choices. Thus, only the final one truly led, inevitably, to Ultimate Arcane Power. Killing Kubota did not cause V to gain Ultimate Arcane Power, it was merely the first of many choices by V that led to the opportunity of gaining it. Many decisions, including those before Kubota was killed led to V's decision. Choosing conjuration as a banned subschool and killing the dragon by using disintegrate, for example, predate the prophecy, and also lead to the situation at hand, not to mention the prophecy itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4691312, member: 63763"] It's likely an issue of inevitability. There are three likely instances of the 4 words, each being basically pivotal. The killing of Kubota did force V to make the decision to sever ties with the rest of the party, "I cannot fail again" fits to, and this last one occurs just before V seals the deal. In a way, it has to do with how one sees inevitability. As a prophecy, it was always bound to occur, thus it's possible the 4 words start the sequence of events. However, ultimately, it's only inevitable that the Kubota killing leads to the ultimate arcane power if V accepts that it was inevitable, and doesn't take the outs available, especially the one given by the demons in the end. However, if Disintegrate Gust of Wind are what fufills the prophecy, it is only because V accepts that it was the point of no return. However, V makes that decision, and does so by saying four words, for the wrong reasons as well. It could very well be that V was in effect tricked into saying the four words (and more importantly, doing what the four words implied) because V believed that the four words were already spoken, and the point of no return had been crossed, in effect creating a self-fufilling prophecy. V knows to look for 4 words just like the rest of the audience does, and only suffers from being unable to recognize that what V is doing is for the wrong reason at the time it's done. If V realized, in retrospect, than the 4 words to Kubota were said for the wrong reason, that reasoning could be the "wrong reason" V agreed to deal [believing V had already damned V's self] causing the most recent 4 words to be spoken. What it comes down to is that after killing Kubota, V continued to make decisions that lead up to the choice made in this comic, and was given many opportunities to make different choices. Thus, only the final one truly led, inevitably, to Ultimate Arcane Power. Killing Kubota did not cause V to gain Ultimate Arcane Power, it was merely the first of many choices by V that led to the opportunity of gaining it. Many decisions, including those before Kubota was killed led to V's decision. Choosing conjuration as a banned subschool and killing the dragon by using disintegrate, for example, predate the prophecy, and also lead to the situation at hand, not to mention the prophecy itself. [/QUOTE]
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