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<blockquote data-quote="sunshadow21" data-source="post: 6224457" data-attributes="member: 6667193"><p>I voted the third because I don't see it being good enough to really take on Pathfinder or the plethora of other options over the long term, but it's still the D&amp;D brand, and at least for now, that does mean something still, even if that meaning weakens with every new edition. The option I would truly have voted for is &quot;it will settle in amongst all the other editions of D&amp;D&quot;; it will be above average in the overall market, but it will struggle as 4E has to reliably stay on top, since the biggest problems with 4E wasn't the system itself, but the folks behind it, and that part won't change with a new edition. WotC and Hasbro are still likely to deem a &quot;failure&quot; simply because the chances of it meeting their lofty goals are very, very small. It will not take down Pathfinder or Paizo, nor will it likely drastically change Paizo's strategy over the long term; too many fans and 3rd party publishers support Pathfinder because of Paizo's business practices, something that WotC will never be able to compete with.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="sunshadow21, post: 6224457, member: 6667193"] I voted the third because I don't see it being good enough to really take on Pathfinder or the plethora of other options over the long term, but it's still the D&D brand, and at least for now, that does mean something still, even if that meaning weakens with every new edition. The option I would truly have voted for is "it will settle in amongst all the other editions of D&D"; it will be above average in the overall market, but it will struggle as 4E has to reliably stay on top, since the biggest problems with 4E wasn't the system itself, but the folks behind it, and that part won't change with a new edition. WotC and Hasbro are still likely to deem a "failure" simply because the chances of it meeting their lofty goals are very, very small. It will not take down Pathfinder or Paizo, nor will it likely drastically change Paizo's strategy over the long term; too many fans and 3rd party publishers support Pathfinder because of Paizo's business practices, something that WotC will never be able to compete with. [/QUOTE]

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