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<blockquote data-quote="hejtmane" data-source="post: 6752586" data-attributes="member: 6799371"><p>It stacks but who would take it a scorer and it's 13 AC make sense there; Barbarian terrible investment and a waste for many reasons. Monk but then now he has a 4th stat and still not one of it's core stats how many points can he really dump into int not very much . I mean everyone keeps saying that but I see very little value outside mixing a wizard/sorcerer multi class; </p><p></p><p>I could see a dex base fighter class leveraging it a bit on certain builds. We can compare those a little a fighter has some choices for ac lets look</p><p></p><p>plate + shield is 20 if they take defense skill 21 (most likely a champion build would have this) </p><p></p><p>If I go a dual wield light armor build armor 12 + dex +5 duel wield feat +1 18 Now this toon can dump in int because they have an open stat so lets say they do this and leverage int and manage to max it +5 ac 23 with out feat 22 if he gives up damage for defense 24 but that be stupid he have to be champion to really leverage that but Battle master is the smarter option for many reasons. Now the 23 ac battle master can get ridiculous be adding evasive footwork and a 1d8 to the ac. Then again a duelist with plate and shield can add the same 1d8 (1d12 by 18th level)and put out more damage then the dual wielder oh and he would have a 4th attack that the dual wielder lost by giving up at least 2 levels of fighter and his extra attack is a bonus action</p><p></p><p>I can multiclass two levels of fighter and make a battle wizard like this no weapon and be a spell caster only plate+shield + defense 21 as well</p><p></p><p>A barbarian can get to 22ac at 20th level </p><p></p><p>Outside one special case of a dex based dual wield fighter do i see any oh my goodness I can really leverage the ac stacking</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hejtmane, post: 6752586, member: 6799371"] It stacks but who would take it a scorer and it's 13 AC make sense there; Barbarian terrible investment and a waste for many reasons. Monk but then now he has a 4th stat and still not one of it's core stats how many points can he really dump into int not very much . I mean everyone keeps saying that but I see very little value outside mixing a wizard/sorcerer multi class; I could see a dex base fighter class leveraging it a bit on certain builds. We can compare those a little a fighter has some choices for ac lets look plate + shield is 20 if they take defense skill 21 (most likely a champion build would have this) If I go a dual wield light armor build armor 12 + dex +5 duel wield feat +1 18 Now this toon can dump in int because they have an open stat so lets say they do this and leverage int and manage to max it +5 ac 23 with out feat 22 if he gives up damage for defense 24 but that be stupid he have to be champion to really leverage that but Battle master is the smarter option for many reasons. Now the 23 ac battle master can get ridiculous be adding evasive footwork and a 1d8 to the ac. Then again a duelist with plate and shield can add the same 1d8 (1d12 by 18th level)and put out more damage then the dual wielder oh and he would have a 4th attack that the dual wielder lost by giving up at least 2 levels of fighter and his extra attack is a bonus action I can multiclass two levels of fighter and make a battle wizard like this no weapon and be a spell caster only plate+shield + defense 21 as well A barbarian can get to 22ac at 20th level Outside one special case of a dex based dual wield fighter do i see any oh my goodness I can really leverage the ac stacking [/QUOTE]
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