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<blockquote data-quote="Mirtek" data-source="post: 6752921" data-attributes="member: 40810"><p>Actually this rule is unneeded just as the rule about extra attack on page 164, as the wording on these abilities already prevents any stacking even if the rules on page 14 and page 164 were never included. All the do is to hammer the fact home for those trying to find a vagueness were there is none.</p><p> All class based abilities save for bladesond are like that.</p><p> And bladesong is the only class ability on this list</p><p> And I am not sure that whoever wrote bladesong was aware of that or simply chose the first wording he saw (or made up on his own without checking prior cases of wording similar abilities) without second thought.</p><p> I never refuted that, I am questioning whether it was supposed to become that</p><p> Agreed</p><p> Disagree, since we have no way to know that.</p><p>And nothing I say will ever change your minst until you question your assumptions and accept the possibilty that designers may write a certain part of the game by simply blindly picking the first wording "from the bucket" (or from the top of his mind) without knowing that there are several variants or the reasons for those variants</p><p></p><p>It happened frequently in earlier editions. 4e was full of arguments caused by wordings more or less stating the same thing with slight differences caused by the designers not agreeing on or sticking to a standard formula or just chosing the wrong standard formula for what they actually intended to say.</p><p></p><p>Cases like this are one of the main causes of differences between RAI and RAW</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mirtek, post: 6752921, member: 40810"] Actually this rule is unneeded just as the rule about extra attack on page 164, as the wording on these abilities already prevents any stacking even if the rules on page 14 and page 164 were never included. All the do is to hammer the fact home for those trying to find a vagueness were there is none. All class based abilities save for bladesond are like that. And bladesong is the only class ability on this list And I am not sure that whoever wrote bladesong was aware of that or simply chose the first wording he saw (or made up on his own without checking prior cases of wording similar abilities) without second thought. I never refuted that, I am questioning whether it was supposed to become that Agreed Disagree, since we have no way to know that. And nothing I say will ever change your minst until you question your assumptions and accept the possibilty that designers may write a certain part of the game by simply blindly picking the first wording "from the bucket" (or from the top of his mind) without knowing that there are several variants or the reasons for those variants It happened frequently in earlier editions. 4e was full of arguments caused by wordings more or less stating the same thing with slight differences caused by the designers not agreeing on or sticking to a standard formula or just chosing the wrong standard formula for what they actually intended to say. Cases like this are one of the main causes of differences between RAI and RAW [/QUOTE]
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