Opinions wanted

[Tsyr]

For your Crab to take the Crane daisho would be a huge story arc going far beyond simply him acquiring it - I'm sure, for example, that there would be a hundred thousand or more Crane feeling that they were more worthy of the blades than some ugly, uncouth... thing.

Forget rituals and quests, the political ramifications dwarf this so far as to render it insignificant.

Ok, admitting that i know almost jack about rokugan:

How could another crane have any claim whatsoever except via blood liniage? I thought thats how it worked.

 

[Tsyr]

Bumping this up in the hopes of getting more information...

 

[Aaron L]

I don't think direct blood has much to do with it, as opposed to simply appeasing kami within the sword. Isn't adoption and the like fairly common in Rokugan?

 

[glass]

I don't know much about Rokugan (I only have OA), but I'll throw my €0.02 in anyway:

ISTM, since ancestral daisho is a class feature, he has to get one from somewhere. There are basically three options:

He gets his adoptive (grand)father's daisho. Lots of possible conflict as other Crane clan member dispute his rights, plus a nice feeling of connection between the characters.

He gets his biological (grand)father's daisho. Lots of possible conflict as other Crab clan member dispute his rights, plus an odd image of a guy walking around with armour and swords from two different clans.

He gets a shiny new daisho, blessed by the spirits of either or both clans. He probably wouldn't know which. Of course, he would have to make the proper observances to both lots of spirits, but he probably oughta do that anyway.

Hope this helps.

glass.

 

[Xeriar]

Ok, admitting that i know almost jack about rokugan:

How could another crane have any claim whatsoever except via blood liniage? I thought thats how it worked.

Ack! I forgot you were talking about the d20 class ability, rather than the Crane Clan sword, sorry.

In that case, there are several possibilities:

1: He get's the Crane's father's daisho. This would be contested by his cousins, but if there is no other alternative, it could pass to him if he proved himself more Crane than Crab.

2: He quests for his true grandfather's daisho. This would be the 'right' path (do note the quotes).

3: He gets a Kakita or Kaiu blade forged for him, or one of the ones already forged. I don't know if these are detailed in the d20 version, however.

Note that, although the ancestral daisho is important, there are blades forged of varying quality all over Rokugan - though there really isn't a correllation between L5R quality and d20 magical bonuses, +'s and not-so-fantastic abilities (like wounding) may suffice. He would use these until one of the above options was properly satisfied.

Option 1 and 2 are mutually exclusive, of course. One is to say that you are really a Crane, the other is to say that you are still a Crab. Both would be contested by other potential heirs to the blades, naturally.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

3: He gets a Kakita or Kaiu blade forged for him, or one of the ones already forged. I don't know if these are detailed in the d20 version, however.

Note that, although the ancestral daisho is important, there are blades forged of varying quality all over Rokugan - though there really isn't a correllation between L5R quality and d20 magical bonuses

Rokugan d20 doesn't go into any detail concerting Quality - all Katanas are considered masterwork weapons (with the statistics of a bastard sword), and Wakizashis have the stats of a masterwork short sword. When the character gets his daisho, the weapons have no magical power, he has to "awake" them. This works like item creation, with a couple of exceptions: The character need only to provide treasure with a value equal to the item cost (that's OA, in Rokugan they have to sacrifice the usual XP price for such an item) and have to meditate over the item for several hours. The maximal bonus the weapons can have depend on the character's level (you can make either or both your weapons +1 at 4th, +2 - or +1 keen or whatever - at 7th and so on).