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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5466747" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Except if the polearm lacks reach, it isn't Opportunity Attack that isn't satisfied. You can execute Opportunity Attack just fine.</p><p></p><p>However, you're unable to make the melee basic attack that it grants you, and as such, THAT is where it becomes illegal, as nothing excepts how THAT works in this chain.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Besides that, you can't say that Polearm Gamble only excepts part of Opportunity Attack when it is not exclusive in how it alters Opportunity Attack. For it to work as you say, it needs to say 'Opportunity Attacks can now be triggered by creatures outside its range' or something like that. It is NOT that specific in how it alters OA. It says you can use OAs on targets outside its normal parameters, and you do not <strong>pick and choose</strong> which parameters it can apply to to make convenient arguments. Polearm Gamble changes any and all aspects of Opportunity Attack it contradicts, including range.</p><p></p><p>It does not change melee basic attack; that's a different discussion, and that is why the range of a weapon is still important for this discussion. If you somehow use a polearm as an implement for a druid beastform at-will, even tho they count as melee basic attacks, the range of the power still applies because nothing is an exception to it, nor contradicts it.</p><p></p><p>That's the important difference. Polearm Gamble explicitly contradicts Opportunity Attack, so it works. The rules on Range that work through Opportunity Attack get excepted by Polearm Gamble. PG does not explicitly contradict anything else, so anything else works as it normally does.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5466747, member: 71571"] Except if the polearm lacks reach, it isn't Opportunity Attack that isn't satisfied. You can execute Opportunity Attack just fine. However, you're unable to make the melee basic attack that it grants you, and as such, THAT is where it becomes illegal, as nothing excepts how THAT works in this chain. Besides that, you can't say that Polearm Gamble only excepts part of Opportunity Attack when it is not exclusive in how it alters Opportunity Attack. For it to work as you say, it needs to say 'Opportunity Attacks can now be triggered by creatures outside its range' or something like that. It is NOT that specific in how it alters OA. It says you can use OAs on targets outside its normal parameters, and you do not [b]pick and choose[/b] which parameters it can apply to to make convenient arguments. Polearm Gamble changes any and all aspects of Opportunity Attack it contradicts, including range. It does not change melee basic attack; that's a different discussion, and that is why the range of a weapon is still important for this discussion. If you somehow use a polearm as an implement for a druid beastform at-will, even tho they count as melee basic attacks, the range of the power still applies because nothing is an exception to it, nor contradicts it. That's the important difference. Polearm Gamble explicitly contradicts Opportunity Attack, so it works. The rules on Range that work through Opportunity Attack get excepted by Polearm Gamble. PG does not explicitly contradict anything else, so anything else works as it normally does. [/QUOTE]
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