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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5471254" data-attributes="member: 71571">You keep ignoring the exact wording of SvG.&nbsp; Polearm Gamble wins.&nbsp; Period.&nbsp; End of sentance.&nbsp; You can pull any rules technicality out of your arse you like, but you cannot say something auto-fails by the rules in a game that says that things that directly contradict the rules auto-win.You cannot say Polearm Gamble doesn't do what it must to make itself work as it is supposed to, because that's exactly how Specific vs General works.&nbsp; There's NOTHING in Opportunity Attack that says 'Polearm Gamble cannot work' and Polearm Gamble is specific to Opportunity Attack.&nbsp; Specific wins.The stupid thing is, you keep bringing up Roundabout Charge as tho it's some holy grail of rules that validates your point.&quot;When you charge, you can end your movement in any square adjacent to the target from which you can attack it.&quot;That's the original wording.&nbsp; The reason it 'does nothing' under the rules is not because the rules somehow do something that makes it unable to do what it says.&nbsp; The reason it did nothing is because the rules incorporated Roundabout Charge into Charge itself. &nbsp; This is the same situation as the original printing of the Pact Hammer, which said that you could add your warlock curse damage to attacks with it... which you could always do anyways.The thing is, Roundabout Charge, under its original wording still worked EXACTLY AS IT SAID.&nbsp; It just didn't add any abilities because you could already do what it said.&nbsp; Pact Hammer still worked exactly as it said, it just didn't do anything because you could already do exactly what it said.Polearm Gamble is not like that.&nbsp; You cannot normally do what Polearm Gamble lets you do, so it DOES break the rules, and because it breaks the rules, it works.&nbsp; This is NOT analogous to Roundabout Charge in any way shape or form.&nbsp; It is an irrelevant precident.&nbsp; It has NOTHING to do with the discussion.Give an example of something that actually -breaks- that the rules don't allow, and that SvG can't touch.&nbsp; Not something that is redundant because the ability was added to the basic rule.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5471254, member: 71571"] You keep ignoring the exact wording of SvG. Polearm Gamble wins. Period. End of sentance. You can pull any rules technicality out of your arse you like, but [b]you cannot say something auto-fails by the rules in a game that says that things that directly contradict the rules auto-win.[/b] You cannot say Polearm Gamble doesn't do what it must to make itself work as it is supposed to, because that's [b]exactly[/b] how Specific vs General works. There's NOTHING in Opportunity Attack that says 'Polearm Gamble cannot work' and Polearm Gamble is specific to Opportunity Attack. Specific wins. The stupid thing is, you keep bringing up Roundabout Charge as tho it's some holy grail of rules that validates your point. "When you charge, you can end your movement in any square adjacent to the target from which you can attack it." That's the original wording. The reason it 'does nothing' under the rules is not because the rules somehow do something that makes it unable to do what it says. T[B]he reason it did nothing is because the rules incorporated Roundabout Charge into Charge itself. [/B] This is the same situation as the original printing of the Pact Hammer, which said that you could add your warlock curse damage to attacks with it... which you could always do anyways. The thing is, Roundabout Charge, under its original wording still worked EXACTLY AS IT SAID. It just didn't add any abilities because you could already do what it said. Pact Hammer still worked exactly as it said, it just didn't do anything because you could already do exactly what it said. Polearm Gamble is not like that. You cannot normally do what Polearm Gamble lets you do, so it DOES break the rules, and because it breaks the rules, it works. This is NOT analogous to Roundabout Charge in any way shape or form. It is an irrelevant precident. It has NOTHING to do with the discussion. Give an example of something that actually -breaks- that the rules don't allow, and that SvG can't touch. Not something that is redundant because the ability was added to the basic rule. [/QUOTE]

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