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<blockquote data-quote="shmoo2" data-source="post: 3494912" data-attributes="member: 6847"><p>That's a cogent point. But notice that at those upper CR's the ratio for the dragons is better for the evoker than most of the other monsters. That is, the dragons are dragging the numbers down at levels 15 and 16! (That's because they have relatively poor SR for their CR)</p><p></p><p>e.g. The ratios for your '#2 opponent' high level evil outsiders in the spreadsheet:</p><p>monster CR ratio</p><p>Herzou Demon 11 2.46</p><p>Demon, Retriever 11 1.13</p><p>Barbed Devil 11 2.49</p><p>Demon, Glabrezu 13 2.29</p><p>Devil, Gelugon 13 3.08</p><p>Nalfeshnee Demon 14 2.36</p><p>Cornugon Devil 16 3.94</p><p>Average <strong>2.54</strong></p><p></p><p>They average size Large, so its not trivial to fit 3 of them in an AofE even if they conveniently line up for the evoker.</p><p></p><p>NPCs would be more difficult to consider because of spells and Evasion. Especially because the opponents with high touch ACs (monks, rogues) will also have evasion and good reflex saves. </p><p></p><p>But unless high level NPC typically have good SR, evocations will be more useful against them than high level monsters, I'd bet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shmoo2, post: 3494912, member: 6847"] That's a cogent point. But notice that at those upper CR's the ratio for the dragons is better for the evoker than most of the other monsters. That is, the dragons are dragging the numbers down at levels 15 and 16! (That's because they have relatively poor SR for their CR) e.g. The ratios for your '#2 opponent' high level evil outsiders in the spreadsheet: monster CR ratio Herzou Demon 11 2.46 Demon, Retriever 11 1.13 Barbed Devil 11 2.49 Demon, Glabrezu 13 2.29 Devil, Gelugon 13 3.08 Nalfeshnee Demon 14 2.36 Cornugon Devil 16 3.94 Average [B]2.54[/B] They average size Large, so its not trivial to fit 3 of them in an AofE even if they conveniently line up for the evoker. NPCs would be more difficult to consider because of spells and Evasion. Especially because the opponents with high touch ACs (monks, rogues) will also have evasion and good reflex saves. But unless high level NPC typically have good SR, evocations will be more useful against them than high level monsters, I'd bet. [/QUOTE]
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