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Orbs vs. Evocations II- with level by level data
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<blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 3497178" data-attributes="member: 43358"><p>I think that this is very BBEG dependent. His grunts may be pushovers but the boss could have some sort of response, especially if he knows that they are used.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On a failed save disintegrate does 2d6 per caster level with a maximum of 40d6.</p><p>The orb is doing 1d6 per level with a maximum of 15d6.</p><p></p><p>I am going to ignore the empower unless the disintegrate guy also gets to use a feat on his spell.</p><p></p><p>Disintegrate also goes 4 times as far and has special effects on certain game effects but I think those do not matter for this thread.</p><p></p><p>But it does make an interesting comparison with disintegrate. Does anyone feel that disintegrate is a good spell to take and use against big bad guys?</p><p></p><p>According to the chart the orb at level 16 is at 98.7 damage.</p><p>Using the chart if the orb was subject to spell resistance it would be 53.30.</p><p>Disintegrate would be at 0.94x0.54x(32d6x0.39+5d6x0.61) = 27.59</p><p></p><p>So someone might pick and use the orb but who would ever choose disintegrate? If no one would pick it then should it be something to aspire to?</p><p></p><p><em>Editing in..</em></p><p>I should really just make up my own chart, the first one is too confusing.</p><p>The comparison I just did is apparently an energy admixtured orb against disintegrate so not only is the orb now two levels higher but the guy who has it also used two feats plus all of the other factors.</p><p></p><p>Halving the damage of the orb listed gives 49.35 damage, subject to spell resistance makes it 26.65 damage.</p><p></p><p>Either way though I doubt I would pick disintegrate as my primary attack spell at level 16. Doing an average of 28 points of damage to a single foe is close to the equivalent of not doing anything that round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Slaved, post: 3497178, member: 43358"] I think that this is very BBEG dependent. His grunts may be pushovers but the boss could have some sort of response, especially if he knows that they are used. On a failed save disintegrate does 2d6 per caster level with a maximum of 40d6. The orb is doing 1d6 per level with a maximum of 15d6. I am going to ignore the empower unless the disintegrate guy also gets to use a feat on his spell. Disintegrate also goes 4 times as far and has special effects on certain game effects but I think those do not matter for this thread. But it does make an interesting comparison with disintegrate. Does anyone feel that disintegrate is a good spell to take and use against big bad guys? According to the chart the orb at level 16 is at 98.7 damage. Using the chart if the orb was subject to spell resistance it would be 53.30. Disintegrate would be at 0.94x0.54x(32d6x0.39+5d6x0.61) = 27.59 So someone might pick and use the orb but who would ever choose disintegrate? If no one would pick it then should it be something to aspire to? [I]Editing in..[/I] I should really just make up my own chart, the first one is too confusing. The comparison I just did is apparently an energy admixtured orb against disintegrate so not only is the orb now two levels higher but the guy who has it also used two feats plus all of the other factors. Halving the damage of the orb listed gives 49.35 damage, subject to spell resistance makes it 26.65 damage. Either way though I doubt I would pick disintegrate as my primary attack spell at level 16. Doing an average of 28 points of damage to a single foe is close to the equivalent of not doing anything that round. [/QUOTE]
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