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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3498295" data-attributes="member: 3929">Subtle enough to make no nevermind.Let me put away my metamagic police badge then, and step over the hyperbole for a moment...This comment, as well as:This one, are quite right in that metamagiced spells should be superior in some cases. This is true for the [Stilled] Dimension Door, the [Extended] Magic Jar, and the [Maximized] Fireball that allows the caster to take Teleport. In their specific uses the metamagic improves the spell beyond the usefulness of the higher level spell.In general, however, and particularly outside of the specific instance where you definitely want the metamagiced spell, you'd rather have the higher level one: Teleport instead of DD; Delayed Blast Fireball instead of a metamagicked Fireball. In general, the higher cost of being inflexible (or &quot;less versatile&quot; if you prefer) regarding which level spell slot you use renders a higher benefit upon casting. Or should.Smell that? That's opinion.Sure, but by how much? If it's a close run thing, surely it'll imply Orbs are really much too good as written; if the ratio is .2 for each level, it may show the reverse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3498295, member: 3929"] Subtle enough to make no nevermind. Let me put away my metamagic police badge then, and step over the hyperbole for a moment... This comment, as well as: This one, are quite right in that metamagiced spells should be superior in some cases. This is true for the [Stilled] [i]Dimension Door[/i], the [Extended] [i]Magic Jar[/i], and the [Maximized] [i]Fireball[/i] that allows the caster to take [i]Teleport[/i]. In their specific uses the metamagic improves the spell beyond the usefulness of the higher level spell. In general, however, and particularly outside of the specific instance where you definitely want the metamagiced spell, you'd rather have the higher level one: [i]Teleport[/i] instead of DD; [i]Delayed Blast Fireball[/i] instead of a metamagicked [i]Fireball[/i]. In general, the higher cost of being inflexible (or "less versatile" if you prefer) regarding which level spell slot you use renders a higher benefit upon casting. Or should. Smell that? That's opinion. Sure, but by how much? If it's a close run thing, surely it'll imply Orbs are really much too good as written; if the ratio is .2 for each level, it may show the reverse. [/QUOTE]

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