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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8035519" data-attributes="member: 6704184">Dude, I don't care if there is a technical mechanical distinction called "Greater God" in 4e. I...I know we've interacted enough on these forums for you to pick up that I never, ever, care about this sort of focus on terminology and technical definitions. Ever. Like I regularly leave discussions when they get pedantic because I find it too obnoxious to continue to engage. That being said, again, that adventure culminates a series of adventures, and delivers on a tension that builds throughout, but it (and the stats for gods in general often do in 4e, and probably in older editions) works against the fiction established elsewhere. RQ is one of the most important primary deities. Orcus is empowered, but very importantly, CR isn't an in world thing in 4e. The mechanics aren't the physics in 4e. Orcus is CR 34 so that the story can include a fight with Orcus, and Orcus can kill RQ so that the story can have stakes bigger than the risk of PC death. I'm not arguing about what the adventure says, I'm arguing that it was a mistake of narrative that creates a discontinuity, done for the sake of generating excitement and tension in that adventure.</blockquote>