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<blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 2754745" data-attributes="member: 18549">It's the same reason why people don't like Mr. Mytzlplk.&nbsp; They don't read Superman comics to see a stupid plot device ruin everyone's day for no reason.&nbsp; They read it to see Superman beat unbeatable odds and save the world again and again.Mostly the reason why people are picking this apart is that it is clear that Miko, the DM, cheated.&nbsp; And that's where you lose a lot of people.&nbsp; The DM isn't supposed to cheat.&nbsp; Not in your game, not in mine, and not in the OotS game either.&nbsp; But he did, and from our perspective, it's just busted all the credibility behind the story.&nbsp; Now the OotS wins when the DM decides they win and not a moment before.&nbsp; It's no longer about how the Order goes through their adventures and be interesting characters and fight a lich.&nbsp; It's now about them just being dragged along through the plot like tourists, since it's been shown that they now have absolutely no control over their destinies.&nbsp; Characterization and plot both eliminated in one fell swoop.&nbsp; What's left?&nbsp; D&amp;D jokes.And I'll let you in on a little secret.&nbsp; It's not the D&amp;D jokes that keep people coming back.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lonely Tylenol, post: 2754745, member: 18549"] It's the same reason why people don't like Mr. Mytzlplk. They don't read Superman comics to see a stupid plot device ruin everyone's day for no reason. They read it to see Superman beat unbeatable odds and save the world again and again. Mostly the reason why people are picking this apart is that it is clear that Miko, the DM, cheated. And that's where you lose a lot of people. The DM isn't supposed to cheat. Not in your game, not in mine, and not in the OotS game either. But he did, and from our perspective, it's just busted all the credibility behind the story. Now the OotS wins when the DM decides they win and not a moment before. It's no longer about how the Order goes through their adventures and be interesting characters and fight a lich. It's now about them just being dragged along through the plot like tourists, since it's been shown that they now have absolutely no control over their destinies. Characterization and plot both eliminated in one fell swoop. What's left? D&D jokes. And I'll let you in on a little secret. It's not the D&D jokes that keep people coming back. [/QUOTE]

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