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[OT] 2002 World Cup, part 2
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<blockquote data-quote="Lars Frehse" data-source="post: 234821" data-attributes="member: 1674"><p>Oh, and regarding the general assessment on how Germany played, you have to take into consideration that it is a rather young team, and a lot of players are still developing. Here in Germany, nobody considers the German team to be strong. The press here is as surprised about them making it that far as anyone else. I, for instance, expected them to play even worse.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't say Germany didn't deserve getting this far. Paraguay and the US weren't that weak as some would have thought. After all, the US did smash Portugal, one of the runner ups for the title. If there is one thing this tournament has shown, then it is that the "upstarts" (Like the US, Korea, Senegal, etc). aren't that much inferior to the Dinosaurs (England, Italy, Germany, Brazil, etc.) anymore.</p><p></p><p>But really, I haven't seen any of the classical teams playing any beautiful soccer during this tournament- look at Brazil. You may scold Germany for the lack of style, but at least I can defend those players by saying that they are already giving their best. The brazilian players, though, play arrogantly and haughtily, even though they could do much better. And of course the dirty tricks played against the Turks do not exactly make me fall in love with people like Rivaldo. (Who is not even admitting his unfairness).</p><p>So, of all the teams in the final, the one I want the least to win the cup is Brazil.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and someone mentioned England trashing Germany in the qualification... While I remember it painfully, I would like to point out that Germany won the first of the two games in Wembley 1-0. So, even though the 5-1 of the English team was well deserved and impressive, at least both teams won once.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the German team isn't playing so hot, but it was the same in 1986, where me made it to the final. And like in 86 we got a bunch of young players who are still developing... So maybe we will have a strong German team in 2006 again, like we had in 1990. One could at least wish.</p><p></p><p>Apart from that, I never quite understood the English need to verbally bash German soccer. After all, the two best games I watched were Germany vs. England:</p><p></p><p>Semi Finals in Italy 1990 Germany vs. England (Germany won after penalty shooting) and the semi final in England 1996 again England vs. Germany (which again went into penalty, which the German team won...)...</p><p></p><p>Oh, hold on. Now I am getting why you don't like us... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lars Frehse, post: 234821, member: 1674"] Oh, and regarding the general assessment on how Germany played, you have to take into consideration that it is a rather young team, and a lot of players are still developing. Here in Germany, nobody considers the German team to be strong. The press here is as surprised about them making it that far as anyone else. I, for instance, expected them to play even worse. I wouldn't say Germany didn't deserve getting this far. Paraguay and the US weren't that weak as some would have thought. After all, the US did smash Portugal, one of the runner ups for the title. If there is one thing this tournament has shown, then it is that the "upstarts" (Like the US, Korea, Senegal, etc). aren't that much inferior to the Dinosaurs (England, Italy, Germany, Brazil, etc.) anymore. But really, I haven't seen any of the classical teams playing any beautiful soccer during this tournament- look at Brazil. You may scold Germany for the lack of style, but at least I can defend those players by saying that they are already giving their best. The brazilian players, though, play arrogantly and haughtily, even though they could do much better. And of course the dirty tricks played against the Turks do not exactly make me fall in love with people like Rivaldo. (Who is not even admitting his unfairness). So, of all the teams in the final, the one I want the least to win the cup is Brazil. Oh, and someone mentioned England trashing Germany in the qualification... While I remember it painfully, I would like to point out that Germany won the first of the two games in Wembley 1-0. So, even though the 5-1 of the English team was well deserved and impressive, at least both teams won once. Anyway, the German team isn't playing so hot, but it was the same in 1986, where me made it to the final. And like in 86 we got a bunch of young players who are still developing... So maybe we will have a strong German team in 2006 again, like we had in 1990. One could at least wish. Apart from that, I never quite understood the English need to verbally bash German soccer. After all, the two best games I watched were Germany vs. England: Semi Finals in Italy 1990 Germany vs. England (Germany won after penalty shooting) and the semi final in England 1996 again England vs. Germany (which again went into penalty, which the German team won...)... Oh, hold on. Now I am getting why you don't like us... :p [/QUOTE]
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