OT: Blade II - Spoiler - Opinions?
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PenguinKing
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I don't think the CGI was especially bad - I think a lot of viewers are erroneously equating "characters move like humans couldn't" with "bad CGI".
I mean, hello. They're vampires. They're supposed to be able to fold themselves into bipedal pretzels - it's part of the "superhuman" schtick.
(And I don't think the discrepancy between the "power level" of the various vampires is an inconsistency, either - it should be fairly obvious that some vampires are more badass than others. They're not all carbon-copies of each other - the whole "Bloodpack" schlock should have quite adquately conveyed that - so it's reasonable that they should have differing capabilities.)
- Sir Bob.
P.S. Nih!
I mean, hello. They're vampires. They're supposed to be able to fold themselves into bipedal pretzels - it's part of the "superhuman" schtick.
(And I don't think the discrepancy between the "power level" of the various vampires is an inconsistency, either - it should be fairly obvious that some vampires are more badass than others. They're not all carbon-copies of each other - the whole "Bloodpack" schlock should have quite adquately conveyed that - so it's reasonable that they should have differing capabilities.)
- Sir Bob.
P.S. Nih!
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SonOfLilith
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Alright, I saw the movie last night and it seems that the people that didn't like it, didn't like it because...well, I don't know the because, i guess because there judging it wrong. Blade II was an action movie, and it did a pretty damn good job off being one:Bone-cracking sound, sweet camera angels, lots of cool wepons. If I were to rate it to ALL other movies, I agree, it would get a 2, but I didn't go in there expecting Oscar worthy performances, a great plot, ect., I went in there expecting to see lots and lots of vamps being killed in gory and origanal ways to the constant thumping of the techno and cracking skulls. And, judging it on what I went into that theater to see, I give it a 9 or 10.
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Wulf Ratbane
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KarinsDad said:
More to the point, why didn't they just put on the EXACT SAME super-stealth suits with the auto-lenses that they used to attack Blade in the first place?!?
Wulf
SonOfLilith
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Think about it. If they had all been wearing anti-UV stuff, if one of the bloodpack got turned, then it would be very very hard to kill them. They were protecting themselves from eachother.
PenguinKing
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SonOfLilith said:
Yes, think about it. If one of them was turned, he could take his gun with a UV flashlight on it and wipe them all out (except Blade). They, on the other hand, could wipe out a turned bloodpack member easily by shooting him with both the gun and the UV flashlight. The gun opens up the suit and the flashlight burns.
You each wear a stealth suit that protects you and you each take two UV flashlights in and clean up.
You stay in a group and protect each other. They trained as a team and the first thing they kept doing is splitting up. Yes, maybe you might split up into two sub-teams, but you would still stay close to each other.
If one of you does get turned, you gang attack him, rip up the suit (either with bullets or claws), and UV flashlight him.
They were not protecting themselves from each other. The screenwriters just missed an obvious tactic, either purposely because it would have made it kind of boring and a slaughter, or because they did not think of it.
In any case, if you trained for a year, just to take on the daywalker and part of your gear was a stealth suit that protected against sunlight, you would wear it. If only to protect yourself from a comrade who accidentally or intentionally (if turned) hits you with his own UV flashlight.
Plus, if your mission before you even went to see the daywalker was to take out supervampires, you would have a boatload of different types of weapons. You would be prepared. They got most of their weapons from Whistler. What the heck was that?
All in all, some of the photography and half of the plot was cobbled together.
Mortaneus
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The Samurai guy was the guy from Iron Monkey, as well as being in Mortal Kombat 2.
I went to see butt-kicking, and I got it. I'm happy. If you expect intense plot and acting, what are you doing going to see an ACTION movie? I think the Feng Shui game said it best in the GM section. Plots in an action flick are nothing more than a means of moving the main characters from one fight location to the next, and giving them a reason to go at it (not that it's really necessary under most circumstances).
I liked the wildly panning camera on CGI figure scenes. Especially the one where he flipped and landed on the back of the bike.
Finally Blade really USES some of that vaunted superhuman strength and agility. In the first movie, there were a few scenes that conveyed how powerful he was (snagging the train, leaping from the building). This movie, on the other hand, was chock full of them. I enjoyed that. Especially the bit where he bounded up into the rafters to catch those vamps by surprise.
No vampire in that movie died because he broke their neck, or punched them really hard. Better than the first one in that regard.
The super vamps were kind of cool, but I would have enjoyed some more Blade on Vamp action.
The fight scene in front of the spotlights friggin rocked. Any high speed weapon work is a joy to behold.
Kris Kristofferson rocks.
Scud was in the Boondock Saints as one of the brothers.
The Samurai guy was the guy from Iron Monkey, as well as being in Mortal Kombat 2.
I went to see butt-kicking, and I got it. I'm happy. If you expect intense plot and acting, what are you doing going to see an ACTION movie? I think the Feng Shui game said it best in the GM section. Plots in an action flick are nothing more than a means of moving the main characters from one fight location to the next, and giving them a reason to go at it (not that it's really necessary under most circumstances).
I liked the wildly panning camera on CGI figure scenes. Especially the one where he flipped and landed on the back of the bike.
Finally Blade really USES some of that vaunted superhuman strength and agility. In the first movie, there were a few scenes that conveyed how powerful he was (snagging the train, leaping from the building). This movie, on the other hand, was chock full of them. I enjoyed that. Especially the bit where he bounded up into the rafters to catch those vamps by surprise.
No vampire in that movie died because he broke their neck, or punched them really hard. Better than the first one in that regard.
The super vamps were kind of cool, but I would have enjoyed some more Blade on Vamp action.
The fight scene in front of the spotlights friggin rocked. Any high speed weapon work is a joy to behold.
Kris Kristofferson rocks.
Scud was in the Boondock Saints as one of the brothers.
Reprisal
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Man, sometimes, I don't know what you guys are expecting when you go into theaters... I dunno, it must be the urge to nitpick or something. It's a movie about a Marvel comic, hehe. The only comparison I was going to make when I went in there was between the first one and this one. It was better than the first movie, yet keeps the same feel (maybe even builds upon it). Was definately more enjoyable than Resident Evil, but not by much...
(Of course, since this is all a discussion about subjective value judgements, I'm not exactly sure that anyone can really turn one person to another side. People tend to hold onto their opinions fervently...)
Anyway, I hope anyone reading these posts realizes that one's probably going to have to see it themselves before they can have any definitive answers (unless you have a friend with similar interests, that's always cool).
- Rep
(Of course, since this is all a discussion about subjective value judgements, I'm not exactly sure that anyone can really turn one person to another side. People tend to hold onto their opinions fervently...)
Anyway, I hope anyone reading these posts realizes that one's probably going to have to see it themselves before they can have any definitive answers (unless you have a friend with similar interests, that's always cool).
- Rep
JacktheRabbit
Explorer
Just saw the movie and have a few comments.
1. Fights scenes were too tight in. This was irritating and made it hard at times to follow the action.
2. The elite vampire force was far from it. They rarely worked in groups but instead split up way too much so that they could get taken out alone.
3. If everyone is afraid of getting bit by one of these things then why doesn't anyone wear protective neck gear a la the James Wood vampire movie.
4. Why use the bomb to blow up the normal punk kid instead of blowing up the nasty vampire. I know the movie emphasises good fight scenes but that was just dumb.
5. What happened to the chick from Blade 1? She isnt even mentioned in the least.
6. The whole process to bring back Whistler was just stupid. Nuff said on that.
1. Fights scenes were too tight in. This was irritating and made it hard at times to follow the action.
2. The elite vampire force was far from it. They rarely worked in groups but instead split up way too much so that they could get taken out alone.
3. If everyone is afraid of getting bit by one of these things then why doesn't anyone wear protective neck gear a la the James Wood vampire movie.
4. Why use the bomb to blow up the normal punk kid instead of blowing up the nasty vampire. I know the movie emphasises good fight scenes but that was just dumb.
5. What happened to the chick from Blade 1? She isnt even mentioned in the least.
6. The whole process to bring back Whistler was just stupid. Nuff said on that.
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