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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 201245" data-attributes="member: 4720">So Yoda is incapable of personal growth?  Besides, saying that "wars do not make one great" is wisdom that can only TRULY be gained after having been involved in war.  Role-playing stats aside, true wisdom comes from experience.  It is not a default state.  Also, it's not as if Yoda kicked open a door and started wailing on Dooku.  He knew what was going on, and it was obvious that a fight was the only way to end the threat of Dooku and save the younger Jedi.  Fighting when there is no other choice is, I think, an acceptable choice for the wise. Moving on to the technique issue... any way of wielding a lightsaber without actually handling it takes Yoda out of the hero role and makes him invincible and uninteresting from a narrative standpoint.  You're not a hero unless there's an element of risk, and telekinetically wielding a weapon effectively makes one invincible.  The only limitation on how one uses a weapon is the fact that you have to keep your body attached to it.  A telekinetically manipulated weapon would be unblockable, or more accurately, you could only block it once.  After that, it would simply spin around your weapon and you would be dead.  The fight would last about 3/10 of a second.Besides, are Shaolin any less monks because they can fight?  Mental discipline and physical discipline are deeply connected.  An undisciplined body can taint even the most disciplined mind.  If we accept the theory that Yoda is the most powerful Jedi, his physical prowess should at least match his mental prowess.  I think it was appropriate to display this.Ultimately, though, these complaints are just another version of the "Lucas didn't make MY movie" whining that made Episode 1 a "failure."  I think there's something inherently contradictory about the statement "This scene didn't play out the way I always imagined it.  It's clear he's gone commercial and lost his artistic vision."  Emphasis mine.</blockquote>

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