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<blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 202332" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>I don't disagree with your right to have whatever expectations you want, Wolfspider. But I thought it might be valid to point out that because these movies precede the original trilogy, Yoda has not gone from Ghandi to Rambo, he has gone from Rambo to Ghandi. That is personal growth.</p><p></p><p>You may disagree, but I have an easy time imagining Yoda contemplating these very points during his "exile" on Dagobah in the years between Ep III and IV. He sits around thinking, "What a fool I was. I was caught up in the glory and excitement of leading an army and fighting a war that I thought was just. I should have been paying attention to the fact that the Old Republic was going to hell in a handbasket." Clearly he has learned that combat ability is not nearly as important as the ability to focus on your surroundings and find the correct path to follow. I think that his training of Luke is a pretty good reflection of that.</p><p></p><p>YMMV</p><p></p><p>On a slightly different note, while I generally liked AOTC, I thought that the scene where Shmi died in Anakin's arms was unbelievably trite and cliche. It would have been so easy to just have one of the Sand People kill her with a pot shot as Anakin tried to sneak away with her. Same net effect but without the (IMHO) horribly overdone death scene that was in the movie.</p><p></p><p>And I also thought the the "head swapping" and cheesy one-liners for C-3PO in the final battle somehow managed to rob him of the dignity he had worked so hard to retain throughout the other movies up till now.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, in short I'd say that where this movie was bad, it was very bad. But where it was good, it was VERY good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rel, post: 202332, member: 99"] I don't disagree with your right to have whatever expectations you want, Wolfspider. But I thought it might be valid to point out that because these movies precede the original trilogy, Yoda has not gone from Ghandi to Rambo, he has gone from Rambo to Ghandi. That is personal growth. You may disagree, but I have an easy time imagining Yoda contemplating these very points during his "exile" on Dagobah in the years between Ep III and IV. He sits around thinking, "What a fool I was. I was caught up in the glory and excitement of leading an army and fighting a war that I thought was just. I should have been paying attention to the fact that the Old Republic was going to hell in a handbasket." Clearly he has learned that combat ability is not nearly as important as the ability to focus on your surroundings and find the correct path to follow. I think that his training of Luke is a pretty good reflection of that. YMMV On a slightly different note, while I generally liked AOTC, I thought that the scene where Shmi died in Anakin's arms was unbelievably trite and cliche. It would have been so easy to just have one of the Sand People kill her with a pot shot as Anakin tried to sneak away with her. Same net effect but without the (IMHO) horribly overdone death scene that was in the movie. And I also thought the the "head swapping" and cheesy one-liners for C-3PO in the final battle somehow managed to rob him of the dignity he had worked so hard to retain throughout the other movies up till now. Anyhow, in short I'd say that where this movie was bad, it was very bad. But where it was good, it was VERY good. [/QUOTE]
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