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<blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 202377" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>Well, frankly I would be hard pressed to imagine that it can be overlooked. In Episode III, there has got to be some point where Yoda (perhaps along with Obi-Wan) looks at the situation and says, "What have we allowed to happen?!" (Actually, knowing Yoda, he'll probably say, "Along the primrose path we have been led.")</p><p></p><p>Also, over the weekend, my wife and I watched both Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back just to sort of see how "backward compatible" they were. One thing that I noticed was how much of a "crazy old man" vibe Yoda has when he first meets Luke (compared to how he is portrayed in TPM and AOTC). I mean, he is eating Luke's rations, playing with his flashlight and banging on R-2 with a stick. This from the guy who used to command the most powerful group of elite individuals in the galaxy and live in a luxury apartment building on Coruscant.</p><p></p><p>So it seems to me that living with the guilt of what happened on his watch has driven Yoda ever so slightly mad. But once he falls back into his role of being a teacher, he is the zen little philosopher that we all know and love. So, in a way, Luke helps Yoda at least as much as Yoda helps Luke.</p><p></p><p>Luke must represent to him a chance to redeem himself in his own eyes. But he also represents the possibility of making a bad situation even worse (if Luke turns to the Dark Side). So it is a huge gamble that he is taking and he is understandably reluctant to let Luke go to aid his friends.</p><p></p><p>This is also telling when you compare it to the events in AOTC. Perhaps Yoda realizes that the rigid restraints placed on Anakin by the Jedi order were indirectly responsible for his turn to the Dark Side (No, Anakin, you can't go back to Tatooine to rescue your mother. No, Anakin, you can't fall in love with a woman and get married.). He doesn't want to make the same mistake with Luke so he lets him go to the aid of the people he loves.</p><p></p><p>When you get right down to it, it is no wonder that the Jedi order normally only takes in kids when they are very young. If you let them get older, they will have formed emotional attachments to other people which will be stronger than their dedication to their Jedi training. That leaves them wide open for emotional blackmail. It happened to Luke when Vader used Leia and Han to bring him to Bespin. And of course Vader learned that trick when Palpatine used Amidala to pull him toward the dark side.</p><p></p><p>Ugh. Sorry for the disertation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rel, post: 202377, member: 99"] Well, frankly I would be hard pressed to imagine that it can be overlooked. In Episode III, there has got to be some point where Yoda (perhaps along with Obi-Wan) looks at the situation and says, "What have we allowed to happen?!" (Actually, knowing Yoda, he'll probably say, "Along the primrose path we have been led.") Also, over the weekend, my wife and I watched both Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back just to sort of see how "backward compatible" they were. One thing that I noticed was how much of a "crazy old man" vibe Yoda has when he first meets Luke (compared to how he is portrayed in TPM and AOTC). I mean, he is eating Luke's rations, playing with his flashlight and banging on R-2 with a stick. This from the guy who used to command the most powerful group of elite individuals in the galaxy and live in a luxury apartment building on Coruscant. So it seems to me that living with the guilt of what happened on his watch has driven Yoda ever so slightly mad. But once he falls back into his role of being a teacher, he is the zen little philosopher that we all know and love. So, in a way, Luke helps Yoda at least as much as Yoda helps Luke. Luke must represent to him a chance to redeem himself in his own eyes. But he also represents the possibility of making a bad situation even worse (if Luke turns to the Dark Side). So it is a huge gamble that he is taking and he is understandably reluctant to let Luke go to aid his friends. This is also telling when you compare it to the events in AOTC. Perhaps Yoda realizes that the rigid restraints placed on Anakin by the Jedi order were indirectly responsible for his turn to the Dark Side (No, Anakin, you can't go back to Tatooine to rescue your mother. No, Anakin, you can't fall in love with a woman and get married.). He doesn't want to make the same mistake with Luke so he lets him go to the aid of the people he loves. When you get right down to it, it is no wonder that the Jedi order normally only takes in kids when they are very young. If you let them get older, they will have formed emotional attachments to other people which will be stronger than their dedication to their Jedi training. That leaves them wide open for emotional blackmail. It happened to Luke when Vader used Leia and Han to bring him to Bespin. And of course Vader learned that trick when Palpatine used Amidala to pull him toward the dark side. Ugh. Sorry for the disertation. [/QUOTE]
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