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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 203714" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p>I largely agree with you, Doc, but for a couple things:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First, bending the rules for one individual (no matter how unique) is always a bad precedent in a group dependent upon rules and order. It fosters resentment, for one thing. And the beneficiary gets more and more full of himself as time goes by. If anything, they already set Anakin apart too much.</p><p></p><p>Also, I don't think the Jedi can be blamed entirely for not picking up on what a potential problem Shmi was. They've all been raised without attachments of that nature for generations. Most of them probably don't fully understand the nature of those attachments. Obi-Wan certainly didn't. His "Dreams pass" line was evidence of that. If anything, the error of the Jedi was in sequestering themselves so much from normal people. They lock themselves up in literal ivory towers above Coruscant, going out as diplomats or to dispense justice rather than to help the people directly, and interacting more with the corrupt politicians they should be shunning than the average person who needs help. It's an arrogant isolationism that sets them apart from the common people. Yoda seems to recognize this to some extent, even taking a shot at Mace Windu (and the Jedi in general) for arrogance. It's really this arrogance that sets up their fall. IMO, Yoda will come to fully recognize this, and that's why he chooses such a humble place as Dagobah to hide. It is a form of penance for himself, and it also serves to teach his last student, Luke Skywalker, that humility is an important trait in a Jedi.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 203714, member: 4720"] I largely agree with you, Doc, but for a couple things: First, bending the rules for one individual (no matter how unique) is always a bad precedent in a group dependent upon rules and order. It fosters resentment, for one thing. And the beneficiary gets more and more full of himself as time goes by. If anything, they already set Anakin apart too much. Also, I don't think the Jedi can be blamed entirely for not picking up on what a potential problem Shmi was. They've all been raised without attachments of that nature for generations. Most of them probably don't fully understand the nature of those attachments. Obi-Wan certainly didn't. His "Dreams pass" line was evidence of that. If anything, the error of the Jedi was in sequestering themselves so much from normal people. They lock themselves up in literal ivory towers above Coruscant, going out as diplomats or to dispense justice rather than to help the people directly, and interacting more with the corrupt politicians they should be shunning than the average person who needs help. It's an arrogant isolationism that sets them apart from the common people. Yoda seems to recognize this to some extent, even taking a shot at Mace Windu (and the Jedi in general) for arrogance. It's really this arrogance that sets up their fall. IMO, Yoda will come to fully recognize this, and that's why he chooses such a humble place as Dagobah to hide. It is a form of penance for himself, and it also serves to teach his last student, Luke Skywalker, that humility is an important trait in a Jedi. [/QUOTE]
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