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<blockquote data-quote="Ashtal" data-source="post: 32544" data-attributes="member: 3"><p>Hey, Anakin was just a kid! That's what kids say! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> (Personally, I think Amidala had some good lines.) Phantom Menance was my least favorite, though Return of the Jedi my fav. The series revels in good, pulpy space-opera styled dialogue. Anything else is nostalgia, IMO.</p><p></p><p>To those who have issue with Anakin/Vader not sounding, well, Vaderish...this is one of the few characters (if not the only character, I'm guessing) in the entirety of the on-screen story who shows an evolution of character. You have the innocent yet tech-savy slave child who is whisked away to be taught to use the force - taught at an older age than any other Jedi so understandably less able to 'get it', what the force means and how to connect with it. Instead, he'll see it as power, as a way to change things, a way to force his will to make things better. But this will conflict with the Jedi way, and will cause him to class with his peers. Eventually, 'better' becomes revenge. We're going to see him struggle with a love he cannot have, and then have what remains of his nobility crushed when he is swayed to the darkside, eventually transforming him into the Darth Vader we know and love. A Vader much older than the willful, sometimes petulant Anakin who has had years of hardship and cruelty to shape him.</p><p></p><p>No other character is going to make that kind of transformation. Sure, Luke looses the farmboy shtick to become more independent, more focused, but Leia is Leia, Han is Han, Chewy is Chewy, Yoda is Yoda. These are stories about people affecting change, for the most part, not changing themselves. Vader is decided out of step with that. </p><p></p><p>If he was nothing but bad-ass from beginning to end, it would make him an abysmally boring villain. I'm looking forward to the time where I'll be able to sit down and watch eppies 1-6 all at once and then feel even more empathy, more tragedy, when Vader dies at the end - because we'll all understand just how much he's suffered, how many rash and wrong decisions he has made, and how much it has cost him. I think Anakin/Vader is the one character that can pull the franchise out from being a mere (yet great) space opera series into something else, something a little deeper.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ashtal - all IMO, YMMV of course, but will likely see E2 during the first week, if not the night of, because it's the geeky thing to do. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ashtal, post: 32544, member: 3"] Hey, Anakin was just a kid! That's what kids say! :) (Personally, I think Amidala had some good lines.) Phantom Menance was my least favorite, though Return of the Jedi my fav. The series revels in good, pulpy space-opera styled dialogue. Anything else is nostalgia, IMO. To those who have issue with Anakin/Vader not sounding, well, Vaderish...this is one of the few characters (if not the only character, I'm guessing) in the entirety of the on-screen story who shows an evolution of character. You have the innocent yet tech-savy slave child who is whisked away to be taught to use the force - taught at an older age than any other Jedi so understandably less able to 'get it', what the force means and how to connect with it. Instead, he'll see it as power, as a way to change things, a way to force his will to make things better. But this will conflict with the Jedi way, and will cause him to class with his peers. Eventually, 'better' becomes revenge. We're going to see him struggle with a love he cannot have, and then have what remains of his nobility crushed when he is swayed to the darkside, eventually transforming him into the Darth Vader we know and love. A Vader much older than the willful, sometimes petulant Anakin who has had years of hardship and cruelty to shape him. No other character is going to make that kind of transformation. Sure, Luke looses the farmboy shtick to become more independent, more focused, but Leia is Leia, Han is Han, Chewy is Chewy, Yoda is Yoda. These are stories about people affecting change, for the most part, not changing themselves. Vader is decided out of step with that. If he was nothing but bad-ass from beginning to end, it would make him an abysmally boring villain. I'm looking forward to the time where I'll be able to sit down and watch eppies 1-6 all at once and then feel even more empathy, more tragedy, when Vader dies at the end - because we'll all understand just how much he's suffered, how many rash and wrong decisions he has made, and how much it has cost him. I think Anakin/Vader is the one character that can pull the franchise out from being a mere (yet great) space opera series into something else, something a little deeper. Ashtal - all IMO, YMMV of course, but will likely see E2 during the first week, if not the night of, because it's the geeky thing to do. :) [/QUOTE]
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