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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Forlorn" data-source="post: 33679" data-attributes="member: 732">Re: A.O.T.C.Actually Star Wars: A New Hope has probably the highest head count of any movie for number of people killed, innocent and nocent alike.  Lets examine the numbers shall we?  We have assorted Rebel and Imperial Pilots getting blown out of the sky left and right, entire wings gone in an instant.  Stormtroopers mowed down like so much garbage and the open scene were at least 15 rebel troops bite the big one.  But those are just small change in the grand scheme of things.  But wait, whats this?  The Death Star?  A spacestation the size of a small moon?  How many people did it take to opporate that thing?  Tens of thousands easy, and it just goes... boom.  Speaking of things that go boom, what about Alderaan?  "As if millions of voices cried out in agony, and were silenced."  Hardly a low killing and movie and made at a time when there was no PG-13 rating.  Only G, PG and R.  It certainly didnt rate R but it was more then simply PG.Then we have Return of the Jedi.  While not as many deaths as ANH still pleanty of dead people by the end of the film.  Not counting the couple hundred surely with Jabba on his sail barge we also have the final battle above endor.  A number of capital ships, including the Executor, Vaders Super Star Destroyer, and countly starfighters on both sides are destroyed.  There are easily and this is a low estimate 50,000 people killed right there.  Then the Death Star II goes BOOM.  And all hands on board die in a moment of fire and pain.  Now mind you, while fully opperational the thing was still being worked on.  So not only did alot of Imperials die that day, but countless craftsman, slaves and innocents were killed as well.So what are we left with?SW:ANH total dead: MillionsSW:RotJ total dead: Hundreds of thousandsJust a kids movie?  Hardly.  Sure there are elements there, but plenty of things for adults to think about as well.  Fabulous acting? No, but at least one best supporting actor nomination for the movie.  And it definetly was not the worst acting ever.Now lets examing Episode 1 real quick.  How many people died in that movie.  Relatively few.  Hell even the big final battle was nothing more then Gungans lobbing what are effectively water ballons at the oncoming droid army.  A droid army that not only stops working when its control ship is destroyed (by artoo, he is the true hero not that little wuss anakin) but they also fall apart, what the hell is that?  Destroying a ship causes their bolts to come loose and fall off?The real probelm with Star Wars is George himself.  He has admitted such.  If you watched the biography special on him he says that after seeing his daughter born she became his life, not movie making.  While this is understandable it also explains the crap that has come out of him in the years since.  Star Wars is no longer something he loves, its something that makes him money and lets him show off cool technology.  Enough ranting.  Those of you that agree probably agreed before, those of you that dont probably never will.  I hope for more from AOTC, but I'm not going to expect it.</blockquote>

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