Andrew D. Gable
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Would a hospital ever release information pertaining to donor bodies used in transplants? It's a lead that hasn't come up yet in my game, but may; and I'd like to be able to react realistically. 
[OT] Question For Medical Buffs (Darkmatter D20 players stay out!)
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DerianCypher
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I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't.
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Shadowdancer
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Yes, the news media does little feel-good stories all the time about people getting a second chance because of an organ donor. Frequently, they even tell who the donor was. I think the hospital must have the permission of the donor's family and the recipient.
Amrynn Moonshadow
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aside from the occasional "feel good story", it doesn't happen. even when you are a medical doctor inquiring about the family of the guy who just died so your brother got a kidney transplant...
we couldn't even thank that guys family.
for the record -- parents, uncles, aunts, brother, cousins and myself are all medical professionals; we've never seen it happen. those are highly specific details not even WE are privvy to.
we couldn't even thank that guys family.
for the record -- parents, uncles, aunts, brother, cousins and myself are all medical professionals; we've never seen it happen. those are highly specific details not even WE are privvy to.
LazarusLong42
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Amrynn's correct... but this is D20, where anything is possible. And someone is going to have the information, and be willing to part with it for a price.
DC 25 Gather Info check to find an orderly with the information, then DC 35 Diplomacy check to get the orderly to part with the information for a $500 bribe.
OR
Disguise check (be careful, it'd be opposed by the hospital staff's spot checks, which ought to be pretty good, nurses and doctors at least) followed by a DC 20 Gather Info check to find the chart, plus a DC 10 Profession (any medical) check to read the chart.
DC 25 Gather Info check to find an orderly with the information, then DC 35 Diplomacy check to get the orderly to part with the information for a $500 bribe.
OR
Disguise check (be careful, it'd be opposed by the hospital staff's spot checks, which ought to be pretty good, nurses and doctors at least) followed by a DC 20 Gather Info check to find the chart, plus a DC 10 Profession (any medical) check to read the chart.
Utrecht
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However,
There are other methods of determining this inforamtion. They usually give out some level of information about the source - i.e. 17 year old male or 15 year old female.
Take that information and cross reference it with newspaper clippings - this generally works best in the cast of tramatic deaths.
Learning the first piece of information I would give a DC 20 to someone with a reasonable need to know. A DC 25 to someone with a tangential relationship and DC 30 for someone off the street.
The second is simply a Gather Information DC 12.
There are other methods of determining this inforamtion. They usually give out some level of information about the source - i.e. 17 year old male or 15 year old female.
Take that information and cross reference it with newspaper clippings - this generally works best in the cast of tramatic deaths.
Learning the first piece of information I would give a DC 20 to someone with a reasonable need to know. A DC 25 to someone with a tangential relationship and DC 30 for someone off the street.
The second is simply a Gather Information DC 12.
Greatwyrm
Been here a while...
I'm not in medicine, but I am in insurance.
Based on new privacy laws that went into effect on April 15 of this year, finding out directly from the hospital would be nearly impossible. You'd basically need the express written consent (not of major league baseball) of the deceased/donor or next-of-kin. That's pretty hard to get when you don't know who they are.
You'd have to be indrect, checking news stories and such, as suggested earlier or breaking in.
I don't know if there's been precedent on this or not, but I'm not sure how anxious a judge would even be to allow a subpoena (sp?) or search warrant for the records. Even then, since HIPAA is the governing law, it might have to be a federal judge that issued the order. But then, that kinda goes against the clandestine nature of Dark*Matter.
Based on new privacy laws that went into effect on April 15 of this year, finding out directly from the hospital would be nearly impossible. You'd basically need the express written consent (not of major league baseball) of the deceased/donor or next-of-kin. That's pretty hard to get when you don't know who they are.
You'd have to be indrect, checking news stories and such, as suggested earlier or breaking in.
I don't know if there's been precedent on this or not, but I'm not sure how anxious a judge would even be to allow a subpoena (sp?) or search warrant for the records. Even then, since HIPAA is the governing law, it might have to be a federal judge that issued the order. But then, that kinda goes against the clandestine nature of Dark*Matter.
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