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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 560286" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>They already did this, at least partially.</p><p></p><p>In Insurrection, it was a Starfleet Officer who was trying to violate Federation Laws.</p><p></p><p>In Deep Space Nine, Starfleet Officers (and cadets) were declaring martial law, nearly destroying the Earth they wanted to protect.</p><p>A "undercover" section, unknow to most authorities, was performing illegal acts to ensure Federation and Starfleets might.</p><p>(Section 31 (?) )</p><p></p><p>If it wasn`t for the intervention of some alien beings (the prophets of the wormhole - they destroyed a whole Jem`Hardar fleet passing the wormhole)), the Federation would probably have been seized, followed up by Klingons and Romulans...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Dynamic again? Startrek was never dynamic in a way you describe it. The Federation and the Starfleet Officer were always the best - maybe they did err sometimes, but eventually, they succeeded. This is a Startrek Constant. Actually, it is a constant in many Science Fiction Settings - Starwars, Babylon 5, Andromeda, Stargate</p><p></p><p>Settings that didn`t use this concept seem to fail very fast - see - unfortunately - Space 2063.</p><p>(Though I think there are some settings who succeeded with this way - I just can`t remember one <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>Back to Startrek</p><p>But I am willing to agree that it might be very interesting to see the Federation destroyed - but doing this is not only a commercial question, its also a "creational" problem - may writers and producers established a Universe, created a complicated setting - would you like to abandon, destroy this? Even if this seems a bit to dramatic: Would you abandon your family, your house, and your job, just because if you did something else your life might become better (maybe just a little bit, but maybe you lost everything?)</p><p>Perhaps an interesting twist would be to allow for an alternative Startrek Universe - but at this moment, commercial problems might occur. (Maybe, to stay within our dramatic context, it would be something like a "double-life" - nothing that is officially appreciated or easy to manage..)</p><p></p><p>Mustrum Ridcully</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 560286, member: 710"] They already did this, at least partially. In Insurrection, it was a Starfleet Officer who was trying to violate Federation Laws. In Deep Space Nine, Starfleet Officers (and cadets) were declaring martial law, nearly destroying the Earth they wanted to protect. A "undercover" section, unknow to most authorities, was performing illegal acts to ensure Federation and Starfleets might. (Section 31 (?) ) If it wasn`t for the intervention of some alien beings (the prophets of the wormhole - they destroyed a whole Jem`Hardar fleet passing the wormhole)), the Federation would probably have been seized, followed up by Klingons and Romulans... Dynamic again? Startrek was never dynamic in a way you describe it. The Federation and the Starfleet Officer were always the best - maybe they did err sometimes, but eventually, they succeeded. This is a Startrek Constant. Actually, it is a constant in many Science Fiction Settings - Starwars, Babylon 5, Andromeda, Stargate Settings that didn`t use this concept seem to fail very fast - see - unfortunately - Space 2063. (Though I think there are some settings who succeeded with this way - I just can`t remember one :) ) Back to Startrek But I am willing to agree that it might be very interesting to see the Federation destroyed - but doing this is not only a commercial question, its also a "creational" problem - may writers and producers established a Universe, created a complicated setting - would you like to abandon, destroy this? Even if this seems a bit to dramatic: Would you abandon your family, your house, and your job, just because if you did something else your life might become better (maybe just a little bit, but maybe you lost everything?) Perhaps an interesting twist would be to allow for an alternative Startrek Universe - but at this moment, commercial problems might occur. (Maybe, to stay within our dramatic context, it would be something like a "double-life" - nothing that is officially appreciated or easy to manage..) Mustrum Ridcully [/QUOTE]
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