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<blockquote data-quote="Fenros" data-source="post: 186546" data-attributes="member: 975"><p>Well Rinndalir, I'll be skipping (or boycotting) the first weekend too. So don't feel completely alone. Heh heh.</p><p></p><p>I'm not totally sure where you're coming from on your boycott, but I'm not boycotting because I'm a born again Lucas-hater. I actually like Lucas as an cinematic artist. I work in the entertainment industry and know that even the best sometimes have 'valleys' as well as 'peaks' in their list of works. I could never hate anyone that has a bad spell. Yeah, it's too bad it had to be on something a lot of us percieved as a huge pop-culture property.....but oh well.</p><p></p><p>The only thing I'm weary about is that I've yet to hear or read about Lucas admitting that he made mistakes on Ep1.</p><p></p><p>There are those who liked Ep1 and those who hated it. I tend to see the extremes of both camps. There are those who hate the Episode 1 movie and absolutely despise every frame of the film. But I don't think I belong in that camp (just to notify the other readers of this post on where I stand). </p><p></p><p>I scored "SW:TPM" a 3.5 out of possible 10. Where 5 would be a decently crafted movie. Certainly I felt that Ep1 wasn't up to the calibre of the first trilogy, but by no means did I think it was a huge stinky turd. That title goes to movies like "The Musketeer" (score: 1)and "Dungeons&Dragons" (score: 1.5).</p><p></p><p>The reason I'm not rushing out to see Episode II isn't because I'm trying to make a specific statement in the world of Star Wars. Its because a large part of how I pick my movies is dependant on the director/producer's last movie. That's why I didn't go see "Ghosts of Mars". I may like John Carpenter back in his golden years when he was doing stuff like "Big Trouble in Little China" and "The Thing", but frankly.....he's lost it. Why should I continue to blindly trust that his next movie is going to be good when his track history is poor? </p><p></p><p>Its the same thing with Lucas. Many of you ask us boycotters to treat this like any other movie....you quote, "its just a movie guys...." Then by that attitude I judge Ep2 like other movies and decided to skip seeing it until I hear word on whether or not its crappy but an actually good film. Based upon Lucas and his previous work. Just like I did with "Ghost of Mars". I let it come out, heard Carpenter was still sucking.....skipped it entirely. Didn't even rent it.</p><p></p><p>Same with Lucas, the loss of quality started in chronological order, "Return of the Jedi" (only minor mistakes, still good movie), Special Edition foolishness (bigger mistakes now, Greedo shooting, extended Jabba's lair song sequence, etc), and then SW:TPM ( most of us know the gripes here.....if you want my full review maybe I can post it later).</p><p></p><p>By that record, I don't have much faith that Ep2 is going to be the one to bring back his previous quality of filmaking. Although judging by early reviews, it sounds like I'm going to be proven wrong. But until I hear from two of my closest friends (who's reviews I absolutely trust) I will choose not to see Ep2.</p><p></p><p>I'm not being stubborn, I'm not being childish, I'm not over-reacting, and I'm not being self deluded. I'm just (like you said I should do) treating this like any other movie.</p><p></p><p>My question to those who hated Ep1 and are still going to see Ep2 right away (and making fun us boycotters too).......... are YOU treating this like "just a movie" (a regular movie release)?</p><p></p><p>What I think Rinndalir was trying to do was convince those who hated Ep1, to refrain (if only for a little bit) from seeing Ep2 because he felt that they needed a little extra encouragement to help them break from 'Star Wars' brain conditioning. Y'know what I mean.......we all love SW so much, we'll not treat it like any other movie event and go see it regardless of how terrible we thought the last one was. Posting some messages on the board may help 'reach' out to those who need just a few extra words to make them realize that they don't need to rush out and see this movie (those of which didn't like Ep1 that is).</p><p></p><p>Now if you liked Ep1, and are pretty sure Ep2 is going to be good, then that's awesome. By all means, go see it first day, second day, and so on. Heck, even if you think Ep1 did indeed suck but feel Ep2 is going to be better.......go ahead and see it. </p><p></p><p>Go out and enjoy the movie. I hope you walk away from it feeling entertained.</p><p></p><p>But if you think Ep1 sucked and have little faith that Ep2 will be any better...........then why are you rushing to go see it?</p><p></p><p>The Crimster wrote: </p><p></p><p>Actually, boycotting the movie requires no ENERGY or TIME. I think my friend, you'll be spending more energy and time than me.</p><p></p><p>Another thing, there are those that say the reason why people (maybe like me) didn't like SW:TPM was because we were grown up now and that SW was aimed at (and has always been aimed at) kids. Now, for a moment, let's say that's true. Its true Lucas meant for the SW movies to be for kids. Well, he still failed with Ep1. I still think that movie was poorly crafted. There's plenty of kids movies that are better crafted and more entertaining to watch than SW:TPM. Example: "Iron Giant", "Toy Story", "Toy Story2".</p><p></p><p>So I think that counter-point arguement is weak.</p><p></p><p>KDLadage wrote: </p><p></p><p>True. Lucas can tell the story anyway he wants to. But I don't see how that has anything to do with the boycott. We can do anything we want to with our $7.50. Or since I'm in Los Angeles, its more like $9.50</p><p></p><p>Anyone else buying evening tickets for that much like us in the SoCal area?</p><p></p><p>Lizard wrote: </p><p></p><p>I don't remember Rinndalir mentioning anything about debts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fenros, post: 186546, member: 975"] Well Rinndalir, I'll be skipping (or boycotting) the first weekend too. So don't feel completely alone. Heh heh. I'm not totally sure where you're coming from on your boycott, but I'm not boycotting because I'm a born again Lucas-hater. I actually like Lucas as an cinematic artist. I work in the entertainment industry and know that even the best sometimes have 'valleys' as well as 'peaks' in their list of works. I could never hate anyone that has a bad spell. Yeah, it's too bad it had to be on something a lot of us percieved as a huge pop-culture property.....but oh well. The only thing I'm weary about is that I've yet to hear or read about Lucas admitting that he made mistakes on Ep1. There are those who liked Ep1 and those who hated it. I tend to see the extremes of both camps. There are those who hate the Episode 1 movie and absolutely despise every frame of the film. But I don't think I belong in that camp (just to notify the other readers of this post on where I stand). I scored "SW:TPM" a 3.5 out of possible 10. Where 5 would be a decently crafted movie. Certainly I felt that Ep1 wasn't up to the calibre of the first trilogy, but by no means did I think it was a huge stinky turd. That title goes to movies like "The Musketeer" (score: 1)and "Dungeons&Dragons" (score: 1.5). The reason I'm not rushing out to see Episode II isn't because I'm trying to make a specific statement in the world of Star Wars. Its because a large part of how I pick my movies is dependant on the director/producer's last movie. That's why I didn't go see "Ghosts of Mars". I may like John Carpenter back in his golden years when he was doing stuff like "Big Trouble in Little China" and "The Thing", but frankly.....he's lost it. Why should I continue to blindly trust that his next movie is going to be good when his track history is poor? Its the same thing with Lucas. Many of you ask us boycotters to treat this like any other movie....you quote, "its just a movie guys...." Then by that attitude I judge Ep2 like other movies and decided to skip seeing it until I hear word on whether or not its crappy but an actually good film. Based upon Lucas and his previous work. Just like I did with "Ghost of Mars". I let it come out, heard Carpenter was still sucking.....skipped it entirely. Didn't even rent it. Same with Lucas, the loss of quality started in chronological order, "Return of the Jedi" (only minor mistakes, still good movie), Special Edition foolishness (bigger mistakes now, Greedo shooting, extended Jabba's lair song sequence, etc), and then SW:TPM ( most of us know the gripes here.....if you want my full review maybe I can post it later). By that record, I don't have much faith that Ep2 is going to be the one to bring back his previous quality of filmaking. Although judging by early reviews, it sounds like I'm going to be proven wrong. But until I hear from two of my closest friends (who's reviews I absolutely trust) I will choose not to see Ep2. I'm not being stubborn, I'm not being childish, I'm not over-reacting, and I'm not being self deluded. I'm just (like you said I should do) treating this like any other movie. My question to those who hated Ep1 and are still going to see Ep2 right away (and making fun us boycotters too).......... are YOU treating this like "just a movie" (a regular movie release)? What I think Rinndalir was trying to do was convince those who hated Ep1, to refrain (if only for a little bit) from seeing Ep2 because he felt that they needed a little extra encouragement to help them break from 'Star Wars' brain conditioning. Y'know what I mean.......we all love SW so much, we'll not treat it like any other movie event and go see it regardless of how terrible we thought the last one was. Posting some messages on the board may help 'reach' out to those who need just a few extra words to make them realize that they don't need to rush out and see this movie (those of which didn't like Ep1 that is). Now if you liked Ep1, and are pretty sure Ep2 is going to be good, then that's awesome. By all means, go see it first day, second day, and so on. Heck, even if you think Ep1 did indeed suck but feel Ep2 is going to be better.......go ahead and see it. Go out and enjoy the movie. I hope you walk away from it feeling entertained. But if you think Ep1 sucked and have little faith that Ep2 will be any better...........then why are you rushing to go see it? The Crimster wrote: Actually, boycotting the movie requires no ENERGY or TIME. I think my friend, you'll be spending more energy and time than me. Another thing, there are those that say the reason why people (maybe like me) didn't like SW:TPM was because we were grown up now and that SW was aimed at (and has always been aimed at) kids. Now, for a moment, let's say that's true. Its true Lucas meant for the SW movies to be for kids. Well, he still failed with Ep1. I still think that movie was poorly crafted. There's plenty of kids movies that are better crafted and more entertaining to watch than SW:TPM. Example: "Iron Giant", "Toy Story", "Toy Story2". So I think that counter-point arguement is weak. KDLadage wrote: True. Lucas can tell the story anyway he wants to. But I don't see how that has anything to do with the boycott. We can do anything we want to with our $7.50. Or since I'm in Los Angeles, its more like $9.50 Anyone else buying evening tickets for that much like us in the SoCal area? Lizard wrote: I don't remember Rinndalir mentioning anything about debts. [/QUOTE]
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