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Out-monking a Monk in 20 levels.
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<blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 4270406" data-attributes="member: 35678"><p>So, here's a little challenge my buddy gave me - he wants me to make a character, specifically a fist-fighter, to out-monk his monk. He's still not convinced that even without VoP that the monk is an incredibly short-changed, rather crappy class. </p><p></p><p>Minuses:</p><p>Lots of attacks via FoB, crappy BAB.</p><p>Have great speed, but needs a full-attack to get off a FoB</p><p>Lots of skills, crappy skill points (and no reason besides skills to have even a half-decent Int)</p><p>Damage is decent, if you hit (likely not happening)</p><p></p><p>Pluses: </p><p>Good saves.</p><p>Good AC via Wis + Dex.</p><p>Good Movement.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, how can I out-monk his monk class?</p><p></p><p>Book allowed: all WotC 3.5 plus any 3.0 that are not otherwise updated (ex: OA is allowed, since that wasn't updated to 3.5). I own most of them, and I just got the MIC the other day (which I expect to really help me) so splat book this bad-boy up! I'm trying to stay away from base classes from Bo9S or MoI or the like, so please keep that in mind.</p><p></p><p>So, what I need for a monk:</p><p></p><p>Good unarmed damage!</p><p>Lots of attacks!</p><p>Good saves!</p><p>Good AC!</p><p>Decent base speed!</p><p></p><p><strong>I want to use LA +0 or +1 races only. Nothing more, thanks!</strong></p><p></p><p>Any thoughts/idea spring to mind?</p><p></p><p></p><p>thanks!</p><p>--N</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nyaricus, post: 4270406, member: 35678"] So, here's a little challenge my buddy gave me - he wants me to make a character, specifically a fist-fighter, to out-monk his monk. He's still not convinced that even without VoP that the monk is an incredibly short-changed, rather crappy class. Minuses: Lots of attacks via FoB, crappy BAB. Have great speed, but needs a full-attack to get off a FoB Lots of skills, crappy skill points (and no reason besides skills to have even a half-decent Int) Damage is decent, if you hit (likely not happening) Pluses: Good saves. Good AC via Wis + Dex. Good Movement. So, how can I out-monk his monk class? Book allowed: all WotC 3.5 plus any 3.0 that are not otherwise updated (ex: OA is allowed, since that wasn't updated to 3.5). I own most of them, and I just got the MIC the other day (which I expect to really help me) so splat book this bad-boy up! I'm trying to stay away from base classes from Bo9S or MoI or the like, so please keep that in mind. So, what I need for a monk: Good unarmed damage! Lots of attacks! Good saves! Good AC! Decent base speed! [b]I want to use LA +0 or +1 races only. Nothing more, thanks![/b] Any thoughts/idea spring to mind? thanks! --N [/QUOTE]
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