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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 7559113" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I would argue that the Vampire is not an 'Essentials' class... It appears in HotSF, a book which is not an Essentials product, though it does present a bunch of material that relates to Essentials material. The Vampire however is not one of those bits, it is merely a stand-alone AEDU class. In fact the Vampire has SO FEW POWERS provided, that it is effectively stuck with 1 or 2 options for each slot, but technically it has all the normal power slots and works like a PHB class, not an E-Class like Knight, or even Warpriest.</p><p></p><p>So it is quite fair to say that Vampire is a very undersupported class, and that shows! It is also formatted in a 'post Essentials' format which assumes you will play the built in PP/ED, but doesn't require that. </p><p></p><p>While the class struggles at higher levels, you CAN optimize it to be a reasonable power level. You shouldn't HAVE to, and again that points out its poor support is an issue, but had WotC chosen to put out a Vampire supplement with a bunch of added powers it would have probably been a perfectly fine class. The core mechanics are fairly cool and they DO work. Clearly it could have also used some more better class oriented feats.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 7559113, member: 82106"] I would argue that the Vampire is not an 'Essentials' class... It appears in HotSF, a book which is not an Essentials product, though it does present a bunch of material that relates to Essentials material. The Vampire however is not one of those bits, it is merely a stand-alone AEDU class. In fact the Vampire has SO FEW POWERS provided, that it is effectively stuck with 1 or 2 options for each slot, but technically it has all the normal power slots and works like a PHB class, not an E-Class like Knight, or even Warpriest. So it is quite fair to say that Vampire is a very undersupported class, and that shows! It is also formatted in a 'post Essentials' format which assumes you will play the built in PP/ED, but doesn't require that. While the class struggles at higher levels, you CAN optimize it to be a reasonable power level. You shouldn't HAVE to, and again that points out its poor support is an issue, but had WotC chosen to put out a Vampire supplement with a bunch of added powers it would have probably been a perfectly fine class. The core mechanics are fairly cool and they DO work. Clearly it could have also used some more better class oriented feats. [/QUOTE]
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