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dpmcalister said:
As a member of the British Armed Forces I take offence at products, and opinions, like that!

Are all members of the British Armed Forces as sensitive as you :)

While many nations are capable of an assassination, few would be as interested in such an action. In fact, the list is probably very small. I'd guess it would be even as small a list as Israel, Britain, and the U.S., and that's it. Israel really couldn't do it without provoking such a response from nearby nations that it wouldn't be worth it. So that leaves the U.S. and England. As explained earlier, the US hasn't done it because of the law, and that is probably the only real reason it hasn't happened (hence the explaination was necessary).

So, that leaves England.

As a member of the British Armed Forces, you tell us. Why hasn't England assassinated the leaders of Iraq so far? Is it a) England is not capable of doing so, or b) England is unwilling to do so, or c) England is not allowed to do so?
 

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Mistwell said:
Are all members of the British Armed Forces as sensitive as you :)

No, but quite a few are annoyed at the way our government brown-nose the American government!

So that leaves the U.S. and England.
So, that leaves England.

Are you seriously trying to annoy me? I'm Scottish and a member of the British Armed Forces. NOT the English Armed Forces. Your statements should read:

So that leaves the U.S. and Britain. So, that leaves Britain.

As a member of the British Armed Forces, you tell us. Why hasn't England assassinated the leaders of Iraq so far? Is it a) England is not capable of doing so, or b) England is unwilling to do so, or c) England is not allowed to do so?

Britain hasn't done it because it's illegal under International Law. Until the UN decide that military action should be taken against Iraq then nothing should be done. Just because America (and George W. Bush in particular) wants to wave it's big stick doesn't make it right - nor does it mean publishers should write supplements about it.
 

Mossand would probably better equipped (and have in fact perviously planned) to assassinate Saddam Hussian. But as it is its virtually impossible except as an inside job, as the guy is paranoid and has no routine to his movements.

As for "2.11 Prohibition on Assassination. No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination. "

Does someone want to remind the CIA as I distinctly remember them recently firing a Maverick at the Jeep of a suspected Terrorist leader in Yemen last year.

That 2.11 doesn't say assassination is okay so long as they aren't heads of state or are suspected terrorists or even convicted terrorists.

Also the USA's Cruise Missile attack on Saddam's Intelligence and Command centre after the assassination plot against GB Senior was discovered wasn't a responce "in kind"?
 
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Bagpuss said:
Mossand would probably better equipped (and have in fact perviously planned) to assassinate Saddam Hussian. But as it is its virtually impossible except as an inside job, as the guy is paranoid and has no routine to his movements.

Saddam is incredibly paranoid. He never sleeps in the same location twice, has at least 8 body doubles who have been sugically altered to look more like him, and even goes so far as to not use cel phones unless they're taken out of the package in front of him. (The Mossad taught him to fear that one.)

However, we will address the reasons as to why the Delta Force team is able to take Saddam out, as well as some of the Intelligence that makes is possible.

Hyrum.
 

Actually the main reason's it hasn't happened are more likely to be...

a) You can't target a smart weapon unless you know in advance where the target will be.

b) You can't position a sniper unless you unless you know in advance where the target will be.

c) You can't get close to him without being trusted.

d) He is constantly surrounded by a team of bodyguards that have been trained by some of the best special forces in the world (including but not limited to the SAS), remember this guy was an ally once.

e) As a politician you authorise an attack, be it a bomb or sending in special forces, and it fails, leaving civilians dead or soliders captured, then you might as well kiss your political career goodbye.
 

HyrumOWC said:

However, we will address the reasons as to why the Delta Force team is able to take Saddam out, as well as some of the Intelligence that makes is possible.

Chances are he would be too paranoid to allow one of his generals control of the only nuclear missile in his arsenal. So he would personally have to go to the control centre. So set the Delta Team up watching that place which would be easier to locate.

Although if its a Delta Force Team (or my players) that gets assigned to the job I guess Tel-Aviv had best be evacuated for when they screw-up. ;)
 

Bagpuss said:
Actually the main reason's it hasn't happened are more likely to be...

a) You can't target a smart weapon unless you know in advance where the target will be.

b) You can't position a sniper unless you unless you know in advance where the target will be.

c) You can't get close to him without being trusted.

d) He is constantly surrounded by a team of bodyguards that have been trained by some of the best special forces in the world (including but not limited to the SAS), remember this guy was an ally once.

e) As a politician you authorise an attack, be it a bomb or sending in special forces, and it fails, leaving civilians dead or soliders captured, then you might as well kiss your political career goodbye.

a. Exactly.
b. Exactly.
c. You don't need to get right next to him to do the job.
d. See a, b, and c.
e. The only reason why the team is going in is because Saddam has threatened to nuke Israel, and if that happens, Israel has stated it will launch at Iraq. Letting WW3 happen while on your "watch" is also a great way to kiss your career goodbye.

Hyrum.
 

Will it cover stuff like the huge support a Delta Force team would have on such a mission, such as evac helicopters, air support, perhaps even artillery, cruise missile strikes. Being able to laser designate targets for high altitude bombers to destory, etc, etc.
 

Bagpuss said:
Will it cover stuff like the huge support a Delta Force team would have on such a mission, such as evac helicopters, air support, perhaps even artillery, cruise missile strikes. Being able to laser designate targets for high altitude bombers to destory, etc, etc.

It will to a limited degree. Since the DF force is going in under cover (Saddam said he'll nuke if he discovers any attempt to either take out the nuke, or rescue the hostages), the team won't have their usual amount of "backup". They'll be armed to the teeth and have standing orders to not allow any loyal Iraqi's to report their existence. The entire mission can't last more than 24 hours, from extraction to assassination.

Hyrum.
 

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