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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 9728179" data-attributes="member: 23"><p>So if you have armor of shadows and max dex, your AC is 18... but now you aren't maxing out your cha. And your dex won't be max for a while anyway. You can maybe afford to cast <em>one</em> defensive spell (AA is ok, but unless you have an easy way to re-fill it, it's not that great). If you have medium AC and shield proficiency you can get a decent AC without needing a very high dex score and you can trade armor of shadows for a more useful invocation. </p><p></p><p>Otherwise... what other melee-focused character has <em>less</em> defensive capacity? A rogue perhaps? the 2024 monk's parry ability has made them far more resilient. </p><p></p><p>I've been thinking about it - it does "bother" me that the single class bladelock is a bit vulnerable, but upon further thought, it's kind of required for balance issues. If a bladelock was a tough as, say, an EK, why bother playing an EK then?</p><p></p><p>A lot of these problems are solved by taking a single level of fighter, and the resulting PC is perhaps a bit too strong (a lot more competitive with an EK for example). However, for a full spell caster even a single level dip is a significant sacrifice - it means that HALF of the campaign you will be one spell level behind (level 6/1 you have level 3 spells while the level 7 caster has level 4, for example).</p><p></p><p>edit: MC and roleplay has often been a challenge, but in this case I do like the "story" being told - low level fighter finds a peculiar magic sword...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 9728179, member: 23"] So if you have armor of shadows and max dex, your AC is 18... but now you aren't maxing out your cha. And your dex won't be max for a while anyway. You can maybe afford to cast [I]one[/I] defensive spell (AA is ok, but unless you have an easy way to re-fill it, it's not that great). If you have medium AC and shield proficiency you can get a decent AC without needing a very high dex score and you can trade armor of shadows for a more useful invocation. Otherwise... what other melee-focused character has [I]less[/I] defensive capacity? A rogue perhaps? the 2024 monk's parry ability has made them far more resilient. I've been thinking about it - it does "bother" me that the single class bladelock is a bit vulnerable, but upon further thought, it's kind of required for balance issues. If a bladelock was a tough as, say, an EK, why bother playing an EK then? A lot of these problems are solved by taking a single level of fighter, and the resulting PC is perhaps a bit too strong (a lot more competitive with an EK for example). However, for a full spell caster even a single level dip is a significant sacrifice - it means that HALF of the campaign you will be one spell level behind (level 6/1 you have level 3 spells while the level 7 caster has level 4, for example). edit: MC and roleplay has often been a challenge, but in this case I do like the "story" being told - low level fighter finds a peculiar magic sword... [/QUOTE]
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