Pathfinder 1E Paizo Annoucement!

[Novem5er]

So basically.... they are taking 3.5, but "fixing" all the issues it had.

Isn't that what 4e is?

So is Pathfinder going to be like 4e, but without all the at will, per encounter, and per day powers?

I wonder if they'll fix:

-lack of combat options at low levels.
-too-complicated combat at high levels.
-bloated stat blocks for NPCs/Monsters.
-dependence on multiple stat-boosting magic items.

Okay, I get it... they're seeing what WotC does with 4e and making their game different. I really don't like making negative posts, but I really don't understand this move. I'm all for them sticking with 3.5 if their fan base really enjoys the system, but it sounds like they are taking the basics of the 3.5 OGL and then plan on modifying the game to make it faster, funner, better.

And how his WotC going to allow this?

 

[Wormwood]

The rules look good, actually. Really good, actually.

 

[Dragonblade]

This casts Jason Buhlman's thoughts on 4e in a whole new light. And people accused Ari of duplicity... :\

I looked at their rules PDF and I wasn't impressed. Its a 3.5 house rules doc. I'm sure the vocal 4e critics on their messageboard will be appeased, but are those people really going to spend the dollars Paizo needs to make this work over the long haul?

I doubt it. The biggest whiners are always the thriftiest spenders. Good luck with this, Paizo. But I predict this game will not do well once the 4e books come out.

Like others have said, I'm ready for a new edition. I have no interest in yet another rehash of 3.5 rules.

 

[mlund]

I don't think this is a very big deal. Kenzerco has been running their Hackmaster line off of what amounts to AD&D / 2nd Edition AD&D for years and years now.

Good luck with Pathfinder.

- Marty Lund

 

[IanB]

Well, I'm not going to make any predictions about what this means for Paizo in the larger sense, but it does mean that they've lost me as a Pathfinder subscriber and possibly a customer at all, pending what their 4e stuff looks like - I was hopeful that there would be some cool 4e adventure paths coming out of the product line, and that I would want the older 3.5 adventures for the fluff content, but that is apparently not the case, so I'm done.

 

[HeinorNY]

So Paizo decided to betray 4E?
They won't get my money anymore.
I'm just moving my Paizo bookmark from the RPG/D&D folder into the RPG/Others folder.

 

[EATherrian]

So basically.... they are taking 3.5, but "fixing" all the issues it had.

Isn't that what 4e is?

No, 4E is a medieval veneer on a superhero game. The characters are, by virtue of being characters, more powerful than anything but the card-board cut-outs called monsters. 3.5 might not be great, but at least it fits my idea of D&D. I can't say 4th does that.

As to the point of the thread, this has me apprehensive. I was prepared to give up all hope and go to 4th Edition, but since the premier RPG company of 3.x is not moving that way I'm not sure I will now either. I think Paizo, besides being great creators / writers, is closer in game / world-building philosophy to me than WoTC. Heck, Paizo peeps are old-time Greyhawk lovers and the new group at WoTC see it as a source of names to exploit for their latest badly conceived fluff.

 

[Dragonblade]

First reaction: Paizo, you just shot any chance of a good 4e OGL in the foot.

Indeed. After this, I guarantee that WotC will make it IMPOSSIBLE to combine 4e material with 3.5 material in any way.

 

[helium3]

Well. This is business. Sometimes you make risky decisions because you have to.

I do think there's going to be a subset of folks who either start off or become unhappy with the wholesale of Resource Management from the game that 4E is effecting.

I doubt this means they will have to "shutter" their publishing department, though. Nothing is stopping them from transitioning to 4E in a year, and I know of plenty of folks who're putting off 4E simply because Druids and Psionics won't be available for another year or two.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Eep. Double your pleasure, double your post...