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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 3471024" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>Couple of things I was considering this eve that have not been the subject of comment here...</p><p></p><p>1 - The GAMA tradeshow is next week. To the consumer - this may not mean much. To the distributor and the gaming industry - it's a big deal. Paizo had to be there selling Pathfinder to distributors. If they weren't - it would have seriously undermined the abiility to make this thing fly and get it distribution. This announcement <strong>had</strong> to be made this week, even if it wasn't in WotC's interest.</p><p></p><p>2- Wouldn't the easiest thing in the world have been for WotC to announce that <em>Dragon</em> and <em>Dungeon</em> were not dying but they were moving online? Never mind the talk of "that type of content" moving online - but wouldn't the announcement of the movement of the magazines online been a helluva lot easier?</p><p></p><p>Wouldn't that spin have been easy to do and say and have avoided much spleen venting? It would have reduced the talk to one of periodical delivery (paper vs computer) - and not this death of the family dog, kick in the gut et al. stuff.</p><p></p><p>Well now, yes it would have. And I put it to you that anything that easily avoided by a press release and some good old fashioned spin doctoring had to have a reason behind it.</p><p></p><p>That reason was money. Namely, mine and your subscription money. </p><p></p><p>If you subscribed to Dungeon or Dragon - and those periodicals were moving online, there would have been a fair bit of fuss about people demanding a transfer of their subscription from Paizo to WotC.</p><p></p><p>Never mind whether that was required under the license or your subscription contract or not.</p><p></p><p>The headaches would have been enormous if it was attempted.</p><p></p><p>I have no idea if Paizo was obligated to do it under their license. Or that they would have done it if they <strong>had</strong> been obligated to do it. (The lawyer in me always starts getting very cynical when you reach the "and here-is-where-they-are-obligated-to-transfer-the-money" part of the contract).</p><p></p><p>As it stands - this method has allowed Paizo to persuade a fair number of people to transfer their subscription to Pathfinder and keep their company afloat with a real chance of survival.</p><p></p><p>Not sure if this is WotC taking this PR hit for Paizo - but it's certainly more than possible. </p><p></p><p>When you consider that Paizo was left to talk and hype and sell on the first day of announcement and WotC kept absolutely mum about new products online to a bare minimum - I got to think that was leaving the spotlight open for Paizo to sell its new book.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps they aren't quite as villainous in Renton after all.</p><p></p><p>Something to ponder, at any rate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 3471024, member: 20741"] Couple of things I was considering this eve that have not been the subject of comment here... 1 - The GAMA tradeshow is next week. To the consumer - this may not mean much. To the distributor and the gaming industry - it's a big deal. Paizo had to be there selling Pathfinder to distributors. If they weren't - it would have seriously undermined the abiility to make this thing fly and get it distribution. This announcement [B]had[/B] to be made this week, even if it wasn't in WotC's interest. 2- Wouldn't the easiest thing in the world have been for WotC to announce that [I]Dragon[/I] and [I]Dungeon[/I] were not dying but they were moving online? Never mind the talk of "that type of content" moving online - but wouldn't the announcement of the movement of the magazines online been a helluva lot easier? Wouldn't that spin have been easy to do and say and have avoided much spleen venting? It would have reduced the talk to one of periodical delivery (paper vs computer) - and not this death of the family dog, kick in the gut et al. stuff. Well now, yes it would have. And I put it to you that anything that easily avoided by a press release and some good old fashioned spin doctoring had to have a reason behind it. That reason was money. Namely, mine and your subscription money. If you subscribed to Dungeon or Dragon - and those periodicals were moving online, there would have been a fair bit of fuss about people demanding a transfer of their subscription from Paizo to WotC. Never mind whether that was required under the license or your subscription contract or not. The headaches would have been enormous if it was attempted. I have no idea if Paizo was obligated to do it under their license. Or that they would have done it if they [B]had[/B] been obligated to do it. (The lawyer in me always starts getting very cynical when you reach the "and here-is-where-they-are-obligated-to-transfer-the-money" part of the contract). As it stands - this method has allowed Paizo to persuade a fair number of people to transfer their subscription to Pathfinder and keep their company afloat with a real chance of survival. Not sure if this is WotC taking this PR hit for Paizo - but it's certainly more than possible. When you consider that Paizo was left to talk and hype and sell on the first day of announcement and WotC kept absolutely mum about new products online to a bare minimum - I got to think that was leaving the spotlight open for Paizo to sell its new book. Perhaps they aren't quite as villainous in Renton after all. Something to ponder, at any rate. [/QUOTE]
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