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<blockquote data-quote="kaomera" data-source="post: 5117449" data-attributes="member: 38357"><p>OK, so I'm working up a defender for a game I'm in, and I think I'm about to play my first Paladin since 1e. So I've been re-reading the books, and I'm finding Divine Challenge a bit oddly worded... I figured maybe it would have been re-written for clarity somewhere, but the Compendium just seems to copy-paste the PHB rules text.</p><p></p><p>(So, I'm sure all of this has been covered elsewhere, but that was probably back when the PHB1 first hit, and I can't find the relevant threads...)</p><p></p><p>1. If you use Divine Challenge on multiple targets (by default you can't, but I know that there are items, at least, that let you target multiple opponents with it) do you need to engage all of them, or lose the use of the power on your next turn? If you engage one target but not another and that causes you to lose the use of the power (plus lose the mark on the unengaged target) does that end the mark on the engaged target as well? If not, would it mean that the still-marked target does not take damage if it attacks another target?</p><p></p><p>2. There are several powers / items that extend your mark for a turn, even if it would "normally end". Does this override powers the target might use that would end a mark? If one of these abilities extends the mark on an unengaged target, do you still lose the use of Divine Challenge on your next turn, and (again) how does that effect the radiant damage? If you use one of these powers on an already-Challenged target can I then use Divine Challenge on a new target without ending the Challenge on the first target?</p><p></p><p>3. The wording "On your turn, you must engage the target you challenged or challenge a different target." - does that mean that if you challenge a different target you don't need to engage that turn? Or would you still need to engage the new target or loose the mark and use of the power in the next turn? How does this effect the first round of combat?</p><p></p><p>4. Just to clarify - Am I correct in assuming that if you use Divine Sanction to mark the target of your Divine Challenge you over-write the Challenge in it's entirety and therefore would not be penalized for not engaging the target?</p><p></p><p>I may be being a bit picky on some of those questions, but I don't usually play a defender, and I want to know the rules for the class as best as I can. Any answers (or links to the same) are most appreciated...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kaomera, post: 5117449, member: 38357"] OK, so I'm working up a defender for a game I'm in, and I think I'm about to play my first Paladin since 1e. So I've been re-reading the books, and I'm finding Divine Challenge a bit oddly worded... I figured maybe it would have been re-written for clarity somewhere, but the Compendium just seems to copy-paste the PHB rules text. (So, I'm sure all of this has been covered elsewhere, but that was probably back when the PHB1 first hit, and I can't find the relevant threads...) 1. If you use Divine Challenge on multiple targets (by default you can't, but I know that there are items, at least, that let you target multiple opponents with it) do you need to engage all of them, or lose the use of the power on your next turn? If you engage one target but not another and that causes you to lose the use of the power (plus lose the mark on the unengaged target) does that end the mark on the engaged target as well? If not, would it mean that the still-marked target does not take damage if it attacks another target? 2. There are several powers / items that extend your mark for a turn, even if it would "normally end". Does this override powers the target might use that would end a mark? If one of these abilities extends the mark on an unengaged target, do you still lose the use of Divine Challenge on your next turn, and (again) how does that effect the radiant damage? If you use one of these powers on an already-Challenged target can I then use Divine Challenge on a new target without ending the Challenge on the first target? 3. The wording "On your turn, you must engage the target you challenged or challenge a different target." - does that mean that if you challenge a different target you don't need to engage that turn? Or would you still need to engage the new target or loose the mark and use of the power in the next turn? How does this effect the first round of combat? 4. Just to clarify - Am I correct in assuming that if you use Divine Sanction to mark the target of your Divine Challenge you over-write the Challenge in it's entirety and therefore would not be penalized for not engaging the target? I may be being a bit picky on some of those questions, but I don't usually play a defender, and I want to know the rules for the class as best as I can. Any answers (or links to the same) are most appreciated... [/QUOTE]
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