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<blockquote data-quote="MostlyHarmless42" data-source="post: 7913647" data-attributes="member: 6845520"><p>I'd have to run closer numbers to actually test the math, but from building past characters in both white room scenarios and from actually playing multiple clerics and paladin builds at the table, I'd wager that aside from the life cleric, whose whole "thing" is healing (and possibly the redemption paladin whom is actually pretty useful at healing/preventing damage taken), it generally runs that the paladin runs about half as well as the cleric at healing. That said, a paladin can substantially close the gap if they save their spell slots for healing spells, albeit at the cost of smiting damage. </p><p></p><p>Frankly I wish lay on hands was a bonus action, something I REALLY wish even more after the celestial warlock and the circle of fay (dreams?) Druid. I've considered houseruling it as such. </p><p></p><p>I dont necessarily feel the paladin falls behind in combat healing if one is concerned about action economy too much. Aura of vitality is perhaps my favorite healing spell in the game hands down. It is out of combat where I feel the paladin falls behind. Between prayer of healing, and just more raw spell slots, the cleric is a beast if they dedicate their spells to healing (again though this has similar opportunity cost to offense, a tempest cleric for example really would rather call lightning than cast another cure spell, etc.).</p><p></p><p>The only thing I'd really like to see changed is maybe making a paladin lay on hands a bonus action. I feel they are fine. 5th edition in general runs perfectly fine with a party with two "half healers" and short rests instead of a dedicated healer. Hell as long as the party short rests you can get on fine without a healer at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MostlyHarmless42, post: 7913647, member: 6845520"] I'd have to run closer numbers to actually test the math, but from building past characters in both white room scenarios and from actually playing multiple clerics and paladin builds at the table, I'd wager that aside from the life cleric, whose whole "thing" is healing (and possibly the redemption paladin whom is actually pretty useful at healing/preventing damage taken), it generally runs that the paladin runs about half as well as the cleric at healing. That said, a paladin can substantially close the gap if they save their spell slots for healing spells, albeit at the cost of smiting damage. Frankly I wish lay on hands was a bonus action, something I REALLY wish even more after the celestial warlock and the circle of fay (dreams?) Druid. I've considered houseruling it as such. I dont necessarily feel the paladin falls behind in combat healing if one is concerned about action economy too much. Aura of vitality is perhaps my favorite healing spell in the game hands down. It is out of combat where I feel the paladin falls behind. Between prayer of healing, and just more raw spell slots, the cleric is a beast if they dedicate their spells to healing (again though this has similar opportunity cost to offense, a tempest cleric for example really would rather call lightning than cast another cure spell, etc.). The only thing I'd really like to see changed is maybe making a paladin lay on hands a bonus action. I feel they are fine. 5th edition in general runs perfectly fine with a party with two "half healers" and short rests instead of a dedicated healer. Hell as long as the party short rests you can get on fine without a healer at all. [/QUOTE]
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