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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7813293" data-attributes="member: 6919838">First, without knowledge of the oath and the context, I cannot say anything wasxwrong.Second, as a rule in my gsme whrn dealing with classes like pally, warlock, clerics, druids or even anyone devoted to or having status in a guild - I make it clear wrll before the decision is made whether or not shy for of oath-breaking is at risk. That character has a lot more knowledge of tenets and customs than the player will.So that needs to be sn informed chouce yo be fsir.Third, I do not throw no-win pally traps ehere three is no way out. Its ridiculously easy to setup a player like this and imo cheap.Finally, trying and failing is not in my games breaking an oath. Soundsvyo me like the pallyvttied yo save the NPC, hot caught by a dragon and just refused to let both of them die by fighting a dragon solo. Is the nature of the oath that he must try and die even against hopeless odds?Why not instead, live, gather forces and allies, go kill the dragon and use its wealth to bring the dead guy back???Isnt that more heroic and in the service of good than both you becoming wyrm-snacks? Or isn't whatever higher power is making these choices just one that enjoys seeing its devotees squirm and die? Did thebpally higher power send the dragon as part of a sick humor fetish it has?</blockquote>