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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7815961" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>Just because the deal involves life or enslavement or imprisonment or whatever doesn't mean it is not a deal.</p><p></p><p>Even in modern society, Deals obtained through the overt threat of violence are still deals. They typically could be legally nullified due to the coercion used in obtaining them. But they are/were deals nonetheless.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is nearly always the option of validating the no-win scenario is as we initially perceive it. It is important to do that when the action we are about to do would be evil in all circumstances except the no-win situation. The Paladin had options. He chose to not pursue them. Those actions may have changes the outcome and allowed both to live, or they may have cost them both their life. Anything is possible. </p><p></p><p>But one of the basic and universal pillars of morality is to not do otherwise evil acts unless we are near certain there is no other option, and then and only then is it okay to pick the option that's the least of 2 evils. The simply fact is that the Paladin did nothing to confirm or attempt to confirm that his situation really was a no-win scenario. He had an unjustified belief that it was a no-win situation and acted on that unjustified belief. That's the immoral aspect. If he had justified his belief first that it really was a no-win situation then he could have freely chose the lesser of 2 evils which was the evil that left him alive and the other dead.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Direct open combat with the dragon is not moral - unless possibly done as an attempted stalling tactic to allow the NPC a chance at getting away. But more importantly, there are more ways to resist than direct combat.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But the belief that the Paladin accepting the man is going to die no matter what he does has to be justified both for us and for the Paladin. It's not enough to believe something, that belief must have justification.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7815961, member: 6795602"] Just because the deal involves life or enslavement or imprisonment or whatever doesn't mean it is not a deal. Even in modern society, Deals obtained through the overt threat of violence are still deals. They typically could be legally nullified due to the coercion used in obtaining them. But they are/were deals nonetheless. There is nearly always the option of validating the no-win scenario is as we initially perceive it. It is important to do that when the action we are about to do would be evil in all circumstances except the no-win situation. The Paladin had options. He chose to not pursue them. Those actions may have changes the outcome and allowed both to live, or they may have cost them both their life. Anything is possible. But one of the basic and universal pillars of morality is to not do otherwise evil acts unless we are near certain there is no other option, and then and only then is it okay to pick the option that's the least of 2 evils. The simply fact is that the Paladin did nothing to confirm or attempt to confirm that his situation really was a no-win scenario. He had an unjustified belief that it was a no-win situation and acted on that unjustified belief. That's the immoral aspect. If he had justified his belief first that it really was a no-win situation then he could have freely chose the lesser of 2 evils which was the evil that left him alive and the other dead. Direct open combat with the dragon is not moral - unless possibly done as an attempted stalling tactic to allow the NPC a chance at getting away. But more importantly, there are more ways to resist than direct combat. But the belief that the Paladin accepting the man is going to die no matter what he does has to be justified both for us and for the Paladin. It's not enough to believe something, that belief must have justification. [/QUOTE]
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