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Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?
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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7816278" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>You are conflating a bunch of different things into this one scenario so let's go through them.</p><p></p><p>1. What is Robbery?</p><p></p><p>"Robbery in Virginia (Va. Code <a href="http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-58" target="_blank">§18.2-58</a>) is the taking of property from another person by violence or intimidation with the intent to permanently deprive the owner of his property. Robbery is a very serious charge in Virginia and is punished with 5 years up to life in prison."</p><p></p><p>What happened definitely meets the legal definition of robbery. So now, the criminal would still get charges pressed against him and it wouldn't matter whether I agreed to call it robbery or not, because the facts of the situation make it apparent that's what it was even if I don't call it that.</p><p></p><p>2. Was an agreement made during the robbery? Yes. You agreed to give the robber your wallet in exchange for not killing you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course. The dictionary does tell us what words mean which is what the discussion of agreement and deal is ultimately about.</p><p></p><p>(Though it almost sounds like you were trying to set up a strawman just to knock it down. No one here believes or has advocated for a dictionary being a guide to morality)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Totally agree. It's just an agreement made under duress is still an agreement. It's just an agreement that we morally and legally may void after the threat is over because we as a society have agreed that we find agreements reached through intimidation to be immoral.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7816278, member: 6795602"] You are conflating a bunch of different things into this one scenario so let's go through them. 1. What is Robbery? "Robbery in Virginia (Va. Code [URL='http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-58']§18.2-58[/URL]) is the taking of property from another person by violence or intimidation with the intent to permanently deprive the owner of his property. Robbery is a very serious charge in Virginia and is punished with 5 years up to life in prison." What happened definitely meets the legal definition of robbery. So now, the criminal would still get charges pressed against him and it wouldn't matter whether I agreed to call it robbery or not, because the facts of the situation make it apparent that's what it was even if I don't call it that. 2. Was an agreement made during the robbery? Yes. You agreed to give the robber your wallet in exchange for not killing you. Of course. The dictionary does tell us what words mean which is what the discussion of agreement and deal is ultimately about. (Though it almost sounds like you were trying to set up a strawman just to knock it down. No one here believes or has advocated for a dictionary being a guide to morality) Totally agree. It's just an agreement made under duress is still an agreement. It's just an agreement that we morally and legally may void after the threat is over because we as a society have agreed that we find agreements reached through intimidation to be immoral. [/QUOTE]
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