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Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7817973" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>D&D is a modern RPG played by modern people. </p><p></p><p>Can my paladin murder peasants without consequence? After all, a Samurai of feudal Japan could do so without any repercussions and was not viewed as evil whatsoever.</p><p></p><p>Can I do any number of absolutely abhorrent, by modern standards, acts without tripping people's Paladin Oath quota? </p><p></p><p>I mean, heck, in this situation, if that man was just a commoner, then, the paladin would likely be honor bound NOT to sacrifice himself. He should only sacrifice himself for his liege at his liege's request. To do otherwise would be to dishonor himself.</p><p></p><p>Appeals to medieval morality don't really work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is garbage. In your example, there is a significant chance that the human with a gun will not kill the cop - he is wearing a bullet proof jacket after all. </p><p></p><p>A better example would have your murderer in a tank where there is zero chance of stopping the murderer and even the attempt will simply be suicide. </p><p></p><p>And, no, that cop was not a hero. He threw away his life needlessly, did not prevent the murder of the child and now, no one knows anything about the missing child because the one witness is dead. There is no police manual in the world that would agree with you. </p><p></p><p>Throwing away your life for nothing is not heroic. It's blindingly stupid and cowardly. </p><p></p><p>See, that's where [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] makes the mistake in invoking things like Arthurian stories. In the Arthurian story, the wounded man survives because of the knight's sacrifice. But, this isn't being written. It's a game. So, the knight dies for nothing, the man still dies and there is nothing anyone can do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7817973, member: 22779"] D&D is a modern RPG played by modern people. Can my paladin murder peasants without consequence? After all, a Samurai of feudal Japan could do so without any repercussions and was not viewed as evil whatsoever. Can I do any number of absolutely abhorrent, by modern standards, acts without tripping people's Paladin Oath quota? I mean, heck, in this situation, if that man was just a commoner, then, the paladin would likely be honor bound NOT to sacrifice himself. He should only sacrifice himself for his liege at his liege's request. To do otherwise would be to dishonor himself. Appeals to medieval morality don't really work. This is garbage. In your example, there is a significant chance that the human with a gun will not kill the cop - he is wearing a bullet proof jacket after all. A better example would have your murderer in a tank where there is zero chance of stopping the murderer and even the attempt will simply be suicide. And, no, that cop was not a hero. He threw away his life needlessly, did not prevent the murder of the child and now, no one knows anything about the missing child because the one witness is dead. There is no police manual in the world that would agree with you. Throwing away your life for nothing is not heroic. It's blindingly stupid and cowardly. See, that's where [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] makes the mistake in invoking things like Arthurian stories. In the Arthurian story, the wounded man survives because of the knight's sacrifice. But, this isn't being written. It's a game. So, the knight dies for nothing, the man still dies and there is nothing anyone can do. [/QUOTE]
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