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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7817995" data-attributes="member: 22779">I really don't care about hypotheticals.We're discussing a specific situation where there are two possible outcomes:1.  The paladin lives, the man dies.2.  The paladin dies, the man dies.That's the long and the short of it.  There are no other outcomes that were obvious from the description.  No other outcomes were even hinted at.It's like your mountain climbing example.  We're mountain climbing together, you're in front, I'm behind.  There is a rockslide and I'm knocked unconscious and we're hanging by a single piton that is coming loose.  You have the choice of cutting the rope below you, and letting me fall to my death, or cutting the rope above you and both of us dying.Which is the moral choice?</blockquote>