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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7818789" data-attributes="member: 6795602">So thinking on the OP's clarification a bit more.&nbsp; There's an important detail we seem to be overlooking.The PC swayed the dragon that the dragon should let him continue on his quest due to the benefits it would bring to the dragon.I think that given the paladin's argument for why the dragon should spare him that the Dragon's next question about the NPC seems logical.&nbsp; &quot;Okay Paladin I'm convinced I should spare you but you've not given me any reason your friend should be spared&quot;.&nbsp; The Paladin had a very obvious move there, &quot;advise the dragon that while his quest is important and would benefit the dragon that he will not stand by and let the dragon eat the man&quot;.&nbsp; So I actually think our initial reaction may be wrong.&nbsp; This clearly wasn't a no win scenario like we first believed.&nbsp; It was a scenario where there was an obvious potential solution and the player/paladin dropped the ball at the last moment.So while I initially thought the conversation and high roll that still resulted in the NPC being asked for was enough to justify giving the NPC to the dragon, I no longer think that's the case.&nbsp; There's such an easy and obvious righteous action to attempt before giving up hope.The only thing I think the DM should have done differently is have the dragon phrase the question more like &quot;and what about the injured NPC.&nbsp; Is he also saving the world?&nbsp; If not then give him to me for I hunger&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7818789, member: 6795602"] So thinking on the OP's clarification a bit more. There's an important detail we seem to be overlooking. The PC swayed the dragon that the dragon should let him continue on his quest due to the benefits it would bring to the dragon. I think that given the paladin's argument for why the dragon should spare him that the Dragon's next question about the NPC seems logical. "Okay Paladin I'm convinced I should spare you but you've not given me any reason your friend should be spared". The Paladin had a very obvious move there, "advise the dragon that while his quest is important and would benefit the dragon that he will not stand by and let the dragon eat the man". So I actually think our initial reaction may be wrong. This clearly wasn't a no win scenario like we first believed. It was a scenario where there was an obvious potential solution and the player/paladin dropped the ball at the last moment. So while I initially thought the conversation and high roll that still resulted in the NPC being asked for was enough to justify giving the NPC to the dragon, I no longer think that's the case. There's such an easy and obvious righteous action to attempt before giving up hope. The only thing I think the DM should have done differently is have the dragon phrase the question more like "and what about the injured NPC. Is he also saving the world? If not then give him to me for I hunger". [/QUOTE]

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