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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6267216" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>If you have no relationship to anything outside yourself, how can you possible claim law/order as your highest precept?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Without seeing the code it's very hard to say. There are some clues that he's Chaotic Neutral. </p><p></p><p>1) He places his own dictates above all other law and tradition.</p><p>2) He places himself under no higher authority nor claims any duty or obligation to any such.</p><p>3) He is his own judge of whether he is following his own code. And with 118 such laws, I'd be really surprised if it didn't turn out that some were subject to interpretation. </p><p>4) He doesn't believe his code should be assimilated by others, and he seems to believe that the law is relative to the person or situation rather than universal in any way.</p><p>5) He judges people on the basis of how well they follow their own code. In other words, the highest sin possible in his code is 'betrayal of self' or to put it another way 'hypocrisy'. Note that he even neatly avoids this charge of not 'practicing what he preaches' because he doesn't preach it. The code applies only to him. </p><p>6) He doesn't practice altruism, claiming that this encourages the thriving of others who make bad choices. This strongly reminds me of Objectivism, which is certainly CN. </p><p>7) He doesn't claim that his rights trumps the rights of others. Combined with #6, this strongly reminds me of the Silver Rede - "Harm no one; do as you will". Again, this is an axiomatic expression of CN.</p><p></p><p>However, without actually looking at the demands the 118 rules places on him or the philosophy they seem to express, it's really hard to give a definitive answer. Rules that seemed arbitrary, capricious, random, left much room for personal interpretation, and focused on individual self-expression and freedom would more strongly reinforce my gut instinct. Those that weren't like that would tend to move me in other directions. Come up with the 118 rules and I'll tell you. Note also, it's possible that the net answer is just 'neutral'.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The fact that he isn't proactive strongly places it on the neutral spectrum with respect to good and evil.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I suppose - 118 precepts that only apply to me seems like a pretty random and arbitrary set of rules to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6267216, member: 4937"] If you have no relationship to anything outside yourself, how can you possible claim law/order as your highest precept? Without seeing the code it's very hard to say. There are some clues that he's Chaotic Neutral. 1) He places his own dictates above all other law and tradition. 2) He places himself under no higher authority nor claims any duty or obligation to any such. 3) He is his own judge of whether he is following his own code. And with 118 such laws, I'd be really surprised if it didn't turn out that some were subject to interpretation. 4) He doesn't believe his code should be assimilated by others, and he seems to believe that the law is relative to the person or situation rather than universal in any way. 5) He judges people on the basis of how well they follow their own code. In other words, the highest sin possible in his code is 'betrayal of self' or to put it another way 'hypocrisy'. Note that he even neatly avoids this charge of not 'practicing what he preaches' because he doesn't preach it. The code applies only to him. 6) He doesn't practice altruism, claiming that this encourages the thriving of others who make bad choices. This strongly reminds me of Objectivism, which is certainly CN. 7) He doesn't claim that his rights trumps the rights of others. Combined with #6, this strongly reminds me of the Silver Rede - "Harm no one; do as you will". Again, this is an axiomatic expression of CN. However, without actually looking at the demands the 118 rules places on him or the philosophy they seem to express, it's really hard to give a definitive answer. Rules that seemed arbitrary, capricious, random, left much room for personal interpretation, and focused on individual self-expression and freedom would more strongly reinforce my gut instinct. Those that weren't like that would tend to move me in other directions. Come up with the 118 rules and I'll tell you. Note also, it's possible that the net answer is just 'neutral'. The fact that he isn't proactive strongly places it on the neutral spectrum with respect to good and evil. I suppose - 118 precepts that only apply to me seems like a pretty random and arbitrary set of rules to me. [/QUOTE]
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