Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Paramount+ Will Not Proceed with Dungeons & Dragons Live-Action TV Show
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 9377013" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>I shouldn't have to explain that skepticism is not "mistrust" per se. Ditto for having to remind you that starting from that position until there's a good reason to abandon it is a principled stance.</p><p></p><p>You literally just described the same thing two different ways. Pointing out that WotC hasn't provided the data necessary to make an informed judgment (which isn't "badmouthing" them; neither is pointing out that they've already made at least one error), is reason enough why judgment should be withheld, even if that wasn't already the default presumption. Hence, we should look skeptically on the results we're being spoonfed.</p><p></p><p>I'd like for there to be more accurate data, but the people who presumably have it (i.e. WotC) don't seem to want to share it. In that regard, we can't judge whether or not what they're offering us is the "best approximation" or not. Saying "anything is better than nothing" is likewise not a stance I put any faith in, because that leads to potentially putting faith in bad conclusions, which is worse that simply noting that we don't have any good conclusions to rely on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 9377013, member: 8461"] I shouldn't have to explain that skepticism is not "mistrust" per se. Ditto for having to remind you that starting from that position until there's a good reason to abandon it is a principled stance. You literally just described the same thing two different ways. Pointing out that WotC hasn't provided the data necessary to make an informed judgment (which isn't "badmouthing" them; neither is pointing out that they've already made at least one error), is reason enough why judgment should be withheld, even if that wasn't already the default presumption. Hence, we should look skeptically on the results we're being spoonfed. I'd like for there to be more accurate data, but the people who presumably have it (i.e. WotC) don't seem to want to share it. In that regard, we can't judge whether or not what they're offering us is the "best approximation" or not. Saying "anything is better than nothing" is likewise not a stance I put any faith in, because that leads to potentially putting faith in bad conclusions, which is worse that simply noting that we don't have any good conclusions to rely on. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Paramount+ Will Not Proceed with Dungeons & Dragons Live-Action TV Show
Top