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<blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9377028" data-attributes="member: 7034611"><p>I’d say it very clearly is mistrust, you mistrust the numbers, don’t you?</p><p></p><p></p><p>there is such a thing as taking something too far, there is healthy skepticism and then there are Flat Earthers…</p><p></p><p>I do not consider yours a principled stance, but clearly we disagree on that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>yes, as a healthy level of skepticism and as what you are doing, these are not the same thing… that was the point</p><p></p><p></p><p>oh well, so you have no data to base anything on, too bad, I will then continue to use the available data instead of basing it on your superior data or throwing my hands in the air and claiming ‘we have no data to base anything on’</p><p></p><p></p><p>until you have a better one, it is, unless your claim is not just that these numbers might be slightly off but that they are completely made up and intentionally misleading</p><p></p><p>This line is where you cross from skepticism to tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist</p><p></p><p></p><p>as a general principle I agree, believing made up nonsense is worse than not knowing. Are you saying this is such a case, because that goes way beyond skepticism.</p><p></p><p>You are now going from ‘WotC might have made a mistake so the result is imprecise’ to ‘WotC is lying to us, do not trust the numbers they publish’</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mamba, post: 9377028, member: 7034611"] I’d say it very clearly is mistrust, you mistrust the numbers, don’t you? there is such a thing as taking something too far, there is healthy skepticism and then there are Flat Earthers… I do not consider yours a principled stance, but clearly we disagree on that. yes, as a healthy level of skepticism and as what you are doing, these are not the same thing… that was the point oh well, so you have no data to base anything on, too bad, I will then continue to use the available data instead of basing it on your superior data or throwing my hands in the air and claiming ‘we have no data to base anything on’ until you have a better one, it is, unless your claim is not just that these numbers might be slightly off but that they are completely made up and intentionally misleading This line is where you cross from skepticism to tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist as a general principle I agree, believing made up nonsense is worse than not knowing. Are you saying this is such a case, because that goes way beyond skepticism. You are now going from ‘WotC might have made a mistake so the result is imprecise’ to ‘WotC is lying to us, do not trust the numbers they publish’ [/QUOTE]
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