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Message: <blockquote data-quote="D1Tremere" data-source="post: 7747163" data-attributes="member: 61148">You guys keep pointing me to the leading philosophers in the field, and i understand what you are trying to say. To be clear, my point is that none of them have ever used any evidence to support their positions. If you make a claim with no evidence, you cannot truly debate it. It just becomes a never ending argument.So my question was, can you personally produce an objective example of morality?Is there any action that can be shown to be objectively moral or immoral?Singer says, for example "I must, if I am thinking ethically, imagine myself in the situation of all those affected by my action (with the preferences that they have). I must consider the interests of my enemies as well as my friends, and of strangers as well as family. Only if, after taking fully into account the interests and preferences of all these people, I still think the action is better than any alternative open to me, can I genuinely say that I ought to do it. At the same time I must not ignore the long-term effects of fostering family ties, of establishing and promoting reciprocal relationships, and of allowing wrongdoers to benefit from their wrong doing."That is a reasonable code, but hardly objective.</blockquote>