Pathfinder 1E Pathfinder Monster Hit Points

[IronWolf]

I rarely run an encounter with the hit points as written. Sometimes they get tweaked up and others down slightly. I've always used them as sort of a starting point and not the "A balor has this many hit points".

 

[Walking Dad]

Just looked up the ogre as first 'sample monster' that came up in my mind. Only a difference of 1 HP.

 

[Scurvy_Platypus]

I rarely run an encounter with the hit points as written. Sometimes they get tweaked up and others down slightly. I've always used them as sort of a starting point and not the "A balor has this many hit points".

Heh. This is something else I've noticed... lots of folks seem to run the "average" HP given as the straight up number of HP. But... it _is_ listed as a dice range, so there's nothing really stopping a GM from darn near doubling the HP or halving it for that matter.

Interestingly, lots of people don't seem to do this. *shrug*

 

[Beginning of the End]

Just looked up the ogre as first 'sample monster' that came up in my mind. Only a difference of 1 HP.

You heard someone talking about a change primarily affecting CR 11+ creatures and you randomly went to check a CR 4 creature?

That's an... interesting choice.

 

[Mojo_Rat]

I could not tell if someone answered this already the reason hps went up is Pf linked BaB to hp. so outsiders were d8 Fu

BaB they are now d10 hp because full BaB means d10 or d12 hp. undead are now d8 3/4 BaB and have a mod to hp based on Cha. some other monsters dire bat for example were adjusted to be closer to what they should be.

 

[Kaisoku]

Yeah, from the beta playtesting and comments from the designers, I really got the impression that they approached things from rebuilding some of the base mechanics of the game to work better, which resulted in a trickle-down effect on a number of aspects of creatures. Hitpoints being one aspect that deviated significantly from before.

From the looks of the optimizing thread, where optimized fighter types are dealing 400+ damage in an optimal situation, I don't think the added hitpoints are going to significantly affect non-optimized characters.

If anything, the game is probably based around non-optimized (going by the iconics). Personally, I've always built more "well rounded" characters, capable of multiple things instead of focused completely on a single thing, and combat seems to flow fairly normally (although my experience at the high end is minimal still).