Pathfinder 1E Pathfinder RPG Beta Release is available!

[carmachu]

Sold out at GenCon already, it seems.

Good going! And may your sales continue to be excellent.

Thats very nice to hear.

 

[Treebore]

Thats very nice to hear.

One thing really standing out to me is how clearly they have tried to describe everything. Plus I do like the changes/ideas. Rage and Ki Points being some good things. The fighter actually gaining mastery of their weapons and armor.

I like the Bard changes, but still hate the class. Too spoiled by the 1E version I guess.

I actually like the change to Cleave. I haven't picked out any changes to other feats. Then again I haven't played 3E regularly since early 2005.

I like how the skills are being consolidated, I like how Spell craft now covers Concentration Checks.

I like how they have added powers to the classes to make it worth saying single classed.

WOTC screwed up royally making PrC's all around more attractive than core classes. The changes to the core classes may make single classed characters a little bit more common.

Reading through the chapter on how to be compatible with core 3E I find the needed changes easy to implement.

Good job to Paizo.

 

[Dias Ex Machina]

Now, I am not saying this to accuse anything. I am only pointing it out cause I think its funny. Almost every review I have read for this Beta mentions the new change that Druids can gain Cleric Element Domains and how it is a new and interesting idea...wellllll....

"An elemental tuner chooses one domain from among the following: Air, Earth, Fire, or Water. Each domain gives the druid access to a domain spell at each spell level he can cast, from 1st on up, as well as a granted power. The tuner also may replace his animal companion with a small elemental of the same type as his domain."
Amethyst, 3.5ED

Just tossing it out there.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Dias, that's true - and, might I add, Amethyst is pretty damn cool - but at the same time, I've seen and heard of pretty much the same thing being done, as of years ago.

In fact, it was - again, more or less - part of my house rules, for instance, as of quite a long time ago.

IOW, it's a simple and sensible fundamental idea: the kind of thing Pathfinder RPG has been shaped by, and will continue to be shaped by. Or at least, that's what I believe/hope.

 

[Dias Ex Machina]

Dias, that's true - and, might I add, Amethyst is pretty damn cool - but at the same time, I've seen and heard of pretty much the same thing being done, as of years ago.

In fact, it was - again, more or less - part of my house rules, for instance, as of quite a long time ago.

IOW, it's a simple and sensible fundamental idea: the kind of thing Pathfinder RPG has been shaped by, and will continue to be shaped by. Or at least, that's what I believe/hope.

Gosh, mister, I was only foolin'

It was just because I read a review which pointed it out seemingly as the greatest idea since spice racks. Personally, I still think our Paladin and Ranger prestige classes are better. I was quite suprised actually because our 3.5 was modified nearly as much as their 3.75 version. I guess I was expecting more. Love the artwork though. Paizo should get in touch so I can hand them our 3.5 notes. We aren't usin't them anymore.

Oh, and thanks for the comments... (thumb's up)

 

[Aus_Snow]

Gosh, mister, I was only foolin'

Oops. Sorry, mate.

It's just that most of the other the threads around here, to do with Pathfinder, 4th edition, 3rd edition. . . or well, just about anything - they seem to be so. . . hm, earnest? Dire, even? I'm not accustomed to that level of levity. My bad.

 

[Dias Ex Machina]

Oops. Sorry, mate.

It's just that most of the other the threads around here, to do with Pathfinder, 4th edition, 3rd edition. . . or well, just about anything - they seem to be so. . . hm, earnest? Dire, even? I'm not accustomed to that level of levity. My bad.

No needs to apologize, good sir. I don't know what the big hizzy is all about. 3.5? 4.0? A game's a game. Remember when we have 20 different rulesets out there and the industry was dying. I think we can handle two. At least one of them wasn't World of Synnabar...Ahem...I am sorry for that. I don't mean to insult those huge Synnabar fans out there. I mispoke. I just find it curious that Amethyst played with the 3.5 rules and made something distinctive with Zero fanfare and Pathfinder comes out with about the same level of changes. I was kinda half-expecting more. I guess it is still 3.5 ...and there is no way to get out of that mold.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

No needs to apologize, good sir. I don't know what the big hizzy is all about. 3.5? 4.0? A game's a game. Remember when we have 20 different rulesets out there and the industry was dying. I think we can handle two. At least one of them wasn't World of Synnabar...Ahem...I am sorry for that. I don't mean to insult those huge Synnabar fans out there. I mispoke. I just find it curious that Amethyst played with the 3.5 rules and made something distinctive with Zero fanfare and Pathfinder comes out with about the same level of changes. I was kinda half-expecting more. I guess it is still 3.5 ...and there is no way to get out of that mold.

Well, who is this Amethyst guy you're talking about, anyway?

It's probably all about already having a name (Paizo) and still making one (DiasExMachina/Amethyst). And timing...

 

[Dias Ex Machina]

Well, who is this Amethyst guy you're talking about, anyway?

It's probably all about already having a name (Paizo) and still making one (DiasExMachina/Amethyst). And timing...

Amethyst is a dragon god...I thought everyone knew that?

Timing? A name? Oh...you mean money! Sorry, I forgot about subtlety.

Timing...well...I was having a conversation with someone about timing recently. Remind me again in two months about timing.

 

[The Highway Man]

I was kinda half-expecting more. I guess it is still 3.5 ...and there is no way to get out of that mold.

People often forget that the whole point of Pathfinder is to keep the 3.5 rules in print.