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<blockquote data-quote="DinoInDisguise" data-source="post: 9584828" data-attributes="member: 7045806"><p>Having looked at the article, your wonderful book "Forge of Foes," and watched the "Math of the 2024 Monster Manual" over on the Alphastream youtube channel, I have a feeling that WotC did not adjust properly for the rise in PC power levels. Instead they seemingly corrected for 2014 power levels. They mostly did this through DPR increases at high levels and by flattening monster power in each action. So you no longer have to play a monster optimally to achieve a performance that is at "CR level."</p><p></p><p>If we look at the spreadsheet shared on the aforementioned youtube video, link below, comparing the new Monster Manual to Forge of Foes, we see it is similar in power to the work for you and others did for 2014. But we know through additional features and powers, and the item crafting debacle, that PCs are far stronger than their 2014 predecessors. If Forge of Foes was correct in it's balance, which is subjective as balance always is, that creates an issue.</p><p></p><p>What appears to have happened was WotC adjusted Monster math to what 2014 should have been, in my opinion. They are now relying on the change to how you use challenge rating, and the aforementioned fact you no longer have to run monsters one specific way to get CR level performance, as the offsets to the PC power level increase.</p><p></p><p>I don't think this will be enough. I have a feeling 2024 monsters will continue to punch below their expected power levels. And that at levels 5 to 12, we will need to see a deviation upwards on the numbers to provide on CR challenge to average 2024 PCs. The current monsters will simply die too fast to our new super heroes.</p><p></p><p>One of the greatest youtube videos on the internet: [MEDIA=youtube]Bk5SulZGdZk[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DinoInDisguise, post: 9584828, member: 7045806"] Having looked at the article, your wonderful book "Forge of Foes," and watched the "Math of the 2024 Monster Manual" over on the Alphastream youtube channel, I have a feeling that WotC did not adjust properly for the rise in PC power levels. Instead they seemingly corrected for 2014 power levels. They mostly did this through DPR increases at high levels and by flattening monster power in each action. So you no longer have to play a monster optimally to achieve a performance that is at "CR level." If we look at the spreadsheet shared on the aforementioned youtube video, link below, comparing the new Monster Manual to Forge of Foes, we see it is similar in power to the work for you and others did for 2014. But we know through additional features and powers, and the item crafting debacle, that PCs are far stronger than their 2014 predecessors. If Forge of Foes was correct in it's balance, which is subjective as balance always is, that creates an issue. What appears to have happened was WotC adjusted Monster math to what 2014 should have been, in my opinion. They are now relying on the change to how you use challenge rating, and the aforementioned fact you no longer have to run monsters one specific way to get CR level performance, as the offsets to the PC power level increase. I don't think this will be enough. I have a feeling 2024 monsters will continue to punch below their expected power levels. And that at levels 5 to 12, we will need to see a deviation upwards on the numbers to provide on CR challenge to average 2024 PCs. The current monsters will simply die too fast to our new super heroes. One of the greatest youtube videos on the internet: [MEDIA=youtube]Bk5SulZGdZk[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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