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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 4214412" data-attributes="member: 1645">If we look to fiction, most opponents should go down with one or two hits.&nbsp; One hit point seems extreme though, I agree, especially when other characters have dozens.Seriously?&nbsp; I've never considered the number of weapons in my hands the limiting factor in how many times I could hit someone.There are very, very few monsters that I feel nees to be in the Monster Manual, and I completely agree with the 4E philosophy of providing different kinds of orcs, goblins, etc.That said, I would put the frost giant on the list of iconic monsters that belong in the Monster Manual.I completely agree with your distaste for free magic -- but I'm not exactly a fan of wizards with crossbows.Seriously?&nbsp; A lack of gnome illusionists is a deal-breaker?Everyone's above average!&nbsp; Yay!&nbsp; Yeah, I agree; it's silly.I agree, rampant teleportation is way over the top.Yes, there does seem to be too much...zowie.Obviously openness didn't benefit WotC as much as it might've.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 4214412, member: 1645"] If we look to fiction, most opponents should go down with one or two hits. One hit point seems extreme though, I agree, especially when other characters have dozens. Seriously? I've never considered the number of weapons in my hands the limiting factor in how many times I could hit someone. There are very, very few monsters that I feel [i]nees[/i] to be in the Monster Manual, and I completely agree with the 4E philosophy of providing different kinds of orcs, goblins, etc. That said, I would put the frost giant on the list of iconic monsters that belong in the Monster Manual. I completely agree with your distaste for free magic -- but I'm not exactly a fan of wizards with crossbows. Seriously? A lack of gnome illusionists is a deal-breaker? Everyone's above average! Yay! Yeah, I agree; it's silly. I agree, rampant teleportation is way over the top. Yes, there does seem to be too much...zowie. Obviously openness didn't benefit WotC as much as it might've. [/QUOTE]

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