Paying for previews... sigh

[Carnivorous_Bean]

The ability of Wizards of the Coast to sell a book which is basically a stripped-down and useless version of the final game indicates that they've finally gone from "offering RPG products to imaginative people looking for a ruleset to play their adventures with" to "something where the advertising-brainwashed fanboys will buy literally any piece of garbage we throw at them because we put the name Monte Cook on the cover, like he's anything but another mortal anyway."

In other words, D&D has become a cult brand, and people will buy stuff associated with it because it's "cool" to buy it regardless of the fact that it's useless. Like buying a totally ordinary bag of cheap potato chips because they put a picture of Jar-Jar Binks on the outside, thus tranforming it suddenly into "OMGZORZZZ KEWL STAR WARS POTATO CHIPZZZ."

Talk about a complete disincentive to ever, ever buy a D&D book again from my perspective. Yeccccch.

 

[Rechan]

The ability of Wizards of the Coast to sell a book which is basically a stripped-down and useless version of the final game indicates that they've finally gone from "offering RPG products to imaginative people looking for a ruleset to play their adventures with" to "something where the advertising-brainwashed fanboys will buy literally any piece of garbage we throw at them because we put the name Monte Cook on the cover, like he's anything but another mortal anyway."

In other words, D&D has become a cult brand, and people will buy stuff associated with it because it's "cool" to buy it regardless of the fact that it's useless. Like buying a totally ordinary bag of cheap potato chips because they put a picture of Jar-Jar Binks on the outside, thus tranforming it suddenly into "OMGZORZZZ KEWL STAR WARS POTATO CHIPZZZ."

Talk about a complete disincentive to ever, ever buy a D&D book again from my perspective. Yeccccch.

You mean businesses want our money? REALLY?

Please. It has always been this way.

Look at Paizo. They're milking Pathfinder for all they can, with the Item decks, the settings, the Player's guides. You know what the player's Guide is? Just a re-printing of the info from Rise of the Runelords 1. Same thing with the card decks - it's just re-printing material from the books, to get people to buy them.

And yet as I type this, I am certain someone is going to say how awful I am for accusing Paizo of trying to get a little bit more money out of their quality adventures. "Paizo wouldn't do that! They're the Good guys, it's Wotc who are exploiting us!" And do I think Paizo is evil? NO. They're a business. They're giving a product that someone will buy and will like. I just don't believe that they're doing it purely from the kindness of their heart.

 

[Piratecat]

In other words, D&D has become a cult brand, and people will buy stuff associated with it because it's "cool" to buy it regardless of the fact that it's useless. Like buying a totally ordinary bag of cheap potato chips because they put a picture of Jar-Jar Binks on the outside, thus tranforming it suddenly into "OMGZORZZZ KEWL STAR WARS POTATO CHIPZZZ."

The group attack isn't okay. Remarkably enough, not everyone shares your tastes. Insulting them for that isn't something we want here. This has nothing to do with your position - it'd be just as problematic if you insulted people opposed to 4e - and a whole lot to do with your phrasing.

In any case, thread closed. We were fairly concerned with the condescending tone of the first post, and as expected it's generated a series of problems. Folks, please work your collective butts off to not insult people for having an opinion different than your own. It makes a big difference in how much fun the 4e forum is.

Klunk.