PC, Xbox 360 or PS3?

[John Crichton]

I believe if they are refering to external solutions that simply increase fan power pulling out hot air, they don't void any warantee, since they don't modify anything internal.

Heck, the Wii even has them.

I'm referring to the same thing. Even the Nyko (external) fans can void the warranty. They also aren't needed.

 

[Goldmoon]

at this time, it think ps3 is the most popular, but it's a little expensive

Actually, XBOX 360 is outselling PS3 still but the Wii is outselling them both combined.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Does THAT settle the issue of the relative failure rates and reliability of the two systems folks?

I never debated relative failure rates, so there's nothing to settle. I was referencing anecdotal reports on different sites about folks having issues with their PS3's with various games. So, once more, the PS3 is more reliable than the 360, as I have repeatedly said, but that does not inherently make the PS3 utterly reliable as you stated.

 

[Vocenoctum]

I recall Microsoft saying the industry average to be 3-5% but I don't believe them, I think it is much lower. Game consoles are to be compared to consumer electronics industries and I would guess their average is much closer to Sony's PS3, otherwise TV sets wouldn't be sold with several years warranty as they are for quite a few years.

I think there's various definitions of "failure rate" involved too. I know a guy that went through 3-4 PSP's because of a dead pixel or something. He kept returning them until he got one that he considered "perfect". If Sony got these back and looked at them, they'd probably not consider them a failure. In addition, most failure rates probably exclude "user error", so I doubt Microsoft counted the "disc scratches" due to moving your system while it was running.

It's all a shell game really, made worse by partisan fans that troll some of the tech boards. One guy said his PS3 died and Sony wouldn't warranty it because it was hooked to a surge protector, but there's no way to verify this, Sony of course denies it.

 

[Rackhir]

I never debated relative failure rates, so there's nothing to settle. I was referencing anecdotal reports on different sites about folks having issues with their PS3's with various games. So, once more, the PS3 is more reliable than the 360, as I have repeatedly said, but that does not inherently make the PS3 utterly reliable as you stated.

I never said the PS3 was absolutely reliable and never failed. Can you point out where I did?

 

[Vocenoctum]

I never said the PS3 was absolutely reliable and never failed. Can you point out where I did?

Sorry, my error in saying "you". It slipped in since you've been the main one debating when I said the PS3 does have some problems. Your "single spurious report" comment is close, but different.

 

[Piratecat]

I just came into this thread with both guns blazing... only to find an apology and some attempts to find common ground.

Cool.

 

[Goldmoon]

I cant speak to the Failure rate of the PS3 but I am on my third 360 Since Nov 05 when it came out. I dont consider it a big deal however since Microsoft has reapired or replaced both of the broken ones completely free of charge including shipping. As for the 2 months total I was without a 360, they added 2 free months onto my XBOX live account to make up for it. Sure it has flaws and bugs but one shouldnt base their purchasing decision on that alone. The 360 has tons of great games as well as several good exclusives. While I'll admit that most of the 360 games dont quite stack up to the PS3 in terms of graphics I chalk that up to the developers. The 360 has the capability to play games as graphics intensive as the PS3, most developers just dont make them that well. PS3 cant compete with 360 when it comes to number of games or with their online service (which by the way is absolutely superior in EVERY way despite the fact that its not free) so they make sure all their games look beautiful which was a good decision. Sure, youre going to have fanboys on both sides telling you lies and half truths but each individual should do the research for themselves and buy based or his or her gaming needs and tastes.

 

[Mallus]

Sure it has flaws and bugs but one shouldnt base their purchasing decision on that alone.

The failure rate, coupled with the cost of 360 once you added in wifi and the HD DVD playback I wanted, were the main reasons I bought a PS3 last August.

The 360 has tons of great games as well as several good exclusives.

It sure does. Which is why I'm borrowing my friend's 360 to play Mass Effect and Bioshock.

 

[Arnwyn]

at this time, it think ps3 is the most popular, but it's a little expensive

Actually, when directly compared and online is of any interest, the PS3 is cheaper than the 360 (an NPV analysis proves this - see an older thread in this forum for the cost comparison).

(And they're the same price in Canada, as well as other countries.)

]PS3 cant compete with 360 when it comes to number of games or with their online service (which by the way is absolutely superior in EVERY way despite the fact that its not free)

All I know is that I have a superior experience all around with the PSN compared to Xbox Live. I haven't seen any evidence to show that Live is worth paying for, when every other system and console does it for free, often better (ie. 40 player R:FoM and 32 player Warhawk is as good as or superior in every which way - including/especially performance - than Halo 3 and everything else offered by Live). It's also why some media sources are reporting rumors that Microsoft will move Xbox Live "Gold" to a free service.

Actually, XBOX 360 is outselling PS3 still but the Wii is outselling them both combined.

Indeed. Also, unfortunately, most media outlets seem to be loathe to pay for and report on the worldwide numbers - in which past reports actually have the PS3 ahead of the 360 in the world (thanks to Japan and much of Europe). As you said, though - the Wii does outsell everything in the world.