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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 721794" data-attributes="member: 2572"><p>The problems in updating all extend to your changing of lst syntax and data structures. I am willing to pay for the original entering of the data, but to charge us for fixing problems that you create is wrong. And to fix it yourself its not that simple, most people can't. This is not a viable option for most.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again this myth is being perpetuated. The PCGen founders claim that 2.7.3 was legal under fair use of the copyright laws. I have never heard either Bryon or Robert claim otherwise. If you can get them to post that thier earlier actions were illegal I will accept that these files are illegal, but not until then.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With charging for IP from WotC you are setting the precident that 3rd party IP should be charged for as well encouraging all d20 customers to withhold the IP portions of thier products and charge for them as well. There are too many statements that PCGen will always be free to go back on that, but you are doing everything possible to get around the spirit of the statement and becoming what you were founded to stand against.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>PCGens founders have always claimed that the Data files were legal under fair use copyright laws. Aditionally 3.2 is not a valid option for most and any help to achieve that is rejected if they find out you are using the information to enter material from your own books. </p><p></p><p>Additionally the deal was made for undisputed IP material rights in exchange for fixing e-tools. By charging for the PCGen files they are charging the PCGen fan base to fix e-tools. I thought the negotiations were to help the PCGen community, not to gouge the PCGen fan base for as much money as possible. The only costs that need to be covered are the data enty time and formating that data into already free standards. Lets say this takes 40 hours (a conservative estimate) and data entry time is worth $20 an hour (another conservative estimte for data entry) that comes out to $800 a source. At $2 x 400 downloads (Probably a conservative estimate given thier user base) would cover the costs. Anything over this in downloads is pure profit. Updates are the cost of writting 1 or two perl scripts and they will cover all files. There is no way this is worth $1-$5 dollars per year per source for this service.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brown Jenkin, post: 721794, member: 2572"] The problems in updating all extend to your changing of lst syntax and data structures. I am willing to pay for the original entering of the data, but to charge us for fixing problems that you create is wrong. And to fix it yourself its not that simple, most people can't. This is not a viable option for most. Once again this myth is being perpetuated. The PCGen founders claim that 2.7.3 was legal under fair use of the copyright laws. I have never heard either Bryon or Robert claim otherwise. If you can get them to post that thier earlier actions were illegal I will accept that these files are illegal, but not until then. With charging for IP from WotC you are setting the precident that 3rd party IP should be charged for as well encouraging all d20 customers to withhold the IP portions of thier products and charge for them as well. There are too many statements that PCGen will always be free to go back on that, but you are doing everything possible to get around the spirit of the statement and becoming what you were founded to stand against. PCGens founders have always claimed that the Data files were legal under fair use copyright laws. Aditionally 3.2 is not a valid option for most and any help to achieve that is rejected if they find out you are using the information to enter material from your own books. Additionally the deal was made for undisputed IP material rights in exchange for fixing e-tools. By charging for the PCGen files they are charging the PCGen fan base to fix e-tools. I thought the negotiations were to help the PCGen community, not to gouge the PCGen fan base for as much money as possible. The only costs that need to be covered are the data enty time and formating that data into already free standards. Lets say this takes 40 hours (a conservative estimate) and data entry time is worth $20 an hour (another conservative estimte for data entry) that comes out to $800 a source. At $2 x 400 downloads (Probably a conservative estimate given thier user base) would cover the costs. Anything over this in downloads is pure profit. Updates are the cost of writting 1 or two perl scripts and they will cover all files. There is no way this is worth $1-$5 dollars per year per source for this service. [/QUOTE]
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